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New From your link, wtf?
For individuals, cash clears at par: if you give me a $100 bill, then I’m $100 richer and you’re $100 poorer. No one’s going to jump in and charge a fee for facilitating the transaction. And if I then deposit the $100 bill into my checking account, once again I see the full amount appear on my statement.

But the fact that most people never get charged for cash transactions is corrosive, in its own way: it helps to impede the inevitable-yet-glacial move away from cash and towards more secure, easier, and cheaper forms of payments.

One at a time:
more secure
B.S. 1: Physical control over something - anything - is always the most secure. With cash, I have that. With a bankster's bits, I don't. Not to mention the non-trivial invasion of my privacy with respect to how I spend my money if I use anything other than cash.

easier
B.S. 2: Who refuses cash? What's easier than me handing over cash?

cheaper
B.S. 3: Cheaper for whom? There are no fees associated with my transaction if I use cash and many, many times, I get a discount for using cash. This is true for everything from AvGas to flowers for my wife.

This call for the end of cash smacks of "I've got an Econ/Business degree. I can't contribute anything real to society, so I'll charge a fee for everything productive that everyone else does. You gotta let me. It's better. And besides, how am I gonna pay for my Armani if you don't?"
New remember the movie popeye?
this is what street and the democrats want to do to us
http://www.youtube.c...tch?v=g0ahJPxfGp4
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New I remember what Chase actually did to me.
New You paid cash for your car?
You mail an envelope full of cash to pay your electric bill? Or do you walk to their office each month?
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Drew
New Yes, I did. And at one point
I'd walk around the corner to the local smoke shop that also acted as a payment center for the electric company (and others) and pay cash.
Expand Edited by crazy Nov. 25, 2011, 03:31:02 PM EST
New thats the way po' folks do it
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Yeah, well
I lived on eggs (cheapest most digestible cost effective protein) and mac and cheese (box crap) for a few years.

I always PRESENTED well though, no matter what the situation. During "job training" when I was about 19, we were in a presentation on how to interview. Large crowd with a single speaker. I was in the front row.

I had no experience, a poor high school education (was thrown out about 1/2 way though, but still got a diploma), no training, no nothing. I was a lost cause.

Speaker: When you are in an interview situation, you need to appear relaxed and confident, like you are interviewing them, not the other way around. You do NOT need the money. You need to NEVER appear needy or desperate. You MUST sit a certain way, and look a certain way for the best possible impression.

He then pointed at me, and said:

Do what he is doing right now.

It seems like I relax like a rich confident guy when I'm watching an lecture.
New The last car I bought, I did.
I pay cash for everything I possibly can. Unfortunately, thanks to the bankster class, that isn't everything anymore.

The dealer said he could get me 3.0% on a loan. The Credit Union across the street said I could get 2.75% if I filled out all the PII on myself I had available and gave it to them. I told them to FO. I was not about to fill out their 10 page enrollment form at my age. Went to the dealer and said, "I've decided to just pay cash for the car. I've decided the banksters have already gotten enough of my money." The dealer said, "You're damned right they do. And they're not giving any of it back."

(Edit: 2nd paragraph added)
Expand Edited by mmoffitt Nov. 28, 2011, 10:17:09 AM EST
     Banks contributions to GDP growth were illusory. - (Another Scott) - (41)
         well I hope that you have a call into Barney Frank's office - (boxley) - (40)
             We're not saying the same thing. - (Another Scott) - (39)
                 nope they should have been banged flat - (boxley) - (38)
                     We tried that in the 1930s. Didn't work so well. - (Another Scott) - (37)
                         Analogy - (drook)
                         banks would have collapsed system would not - (boxley) - (35)
                             Lookit all that straw - (drook) - (23)
                                 Who says that's an exaggeration? -NT - (jake123) - (1)
                                     What he said. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                 who is exagerating when fair share is north of 70% of income -NT - (boxley) - (20)
                                     You understand what "marginal rate" means, right? -NT - (Another Scott) - (19)
                                         Re: You understand what fair is right? -NT - (boxley) - (18)
                                             Yes. - (Another Scott) - (17)
                                                 stale data set - (boxley) - (16)
                                                     Still a lot higher than the '40s-'70s historical norm. - (Another Scott) - (13)
                                                         Corporate profits is not individual earnings - (boxley) - (12)
                                                             "Corporations are people my friend." HTH. -NT - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                                                 mebbe so, never saw one shopping at walmart tho -NT - (boxley) - (10)
                                                                     They shop at Nieman-Marcus. - (Another Scott) - (9)
                                                                         go to management sure - (boxley) - (8)
                                                                             You're making a nice impression of a brick wall today. - (Another Scott) - (7)
                                                                                 you brought up shareholders by and large shareholders are us -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                                                                                     Wrong - (drook) - (5)
                                                                                         Hey, maybe he's REALLY rich and we didn't know! - (crazy)
                                                                                         do you have a 101k? - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                                             You mean 401k? - (drook) - (2)
                                                                                                 Yes it does drive... - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                                                     Ed Zachary! -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                     Sure, measure from the peak - (drook) - (1)
                                                         sure, stop measuring at the peak - (boxley)
                             The Fed gave the banks $16T in accounting entries. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                 Heh. "Real money" We don't have that anymore. - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                     Yup. - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                         From your link, wtf? - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                             remember the movie popeye? - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 I remember what Chase actually did to me. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                             You paid cash for your car? - (drook) - (4)
                                                 Yes, I did. And at one point - (crazy) - (2)
                                                     thats the way po' folks do it -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                         Yeah, well - (crazy)
                                                 The last car I bought, I did. - (mmoffitt)

Crap shoot and intuition then.
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