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Post #348,316 by Another Scott 9/29/11 12:42:39 PM Reply	Nice try. Lots of churches will happily perform gay marriages. Lots of people don't get married in churches. Lots of people are "married" without any ceremony at all (see: http://en.wikipedia....the_United_States ) You're tilting at windmills to think that the term "marriage" needs to be somehow redefined or that it can be done "easily" or that doing so will make everyone "equal". (Sorry if I reposted info in a crazy link.) Cheers, Scott.
Post #348,321 by beepster 9/29/11 5:18:20 PM Reply	Re: Nice try. Why dont you try what I asked before attempting to rationalize it away with Wikipedia articles about state programs designed to give equal protection under law to those living together in committed fashion for x years ( depending on the state) as those who have been granted the appropriate state license. Define "lots of", too, ideally as a percentage of all. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #348,348 by crazy 9/29/11 11:16:33 PM Reply	Why does it matter?

why am I not surprised - (boxley) - (92) - Sept. 28, 2011, 12:29:33 PM EDT

Re: why am I not surprised - (beepster) - (88) - Sept. 28, 2011, 01:12:43 PM EDT

Binary Man continues to be Binary. :-/ -NT - (Another Scott) - (87) - Sept. 28, 2011, 01:43:33 PM EDT

Please enlighten me about how you perceive this as binary? - (beepster) - (86) - Sept. 28, 2011, 02:42:03 PM EDT

Re: Please enlighten me about how you perceive this as binar - (Another Scott) - (85) - Sept. 28, 2011, 03:11:53 PM EDT

Ok - (beepster) - (84) - Sept. 28, 2011, 03:41:06 PM EDT

Re: Ok - (beepster) - (83) - Sept. 28, 2011, 05:30:21 PM EDT

Re: Ok - (Another Scott) - (82) - Sept. 28, 2011, 05:56:12 PM EDT

Oh, I get it - (beepster) - (81) - Sept. 28, 2011, 06:27:23 PM EDT

Binary Man continues to be Binary. - (Another Scott) - (80) - Sept. 28, 2011, 07:25:07 PM EDT

Hmmm. No evidence, no med diagnosis to support - (beepster) - (79) - Sept. 28, 2011, 10:17:01 PM EDT

As usual - (crazy) - (78) - Sept. 29, 2011, 07:36:38 AM EDT

Re: As usual - (beepster) - (77) - Sept. 29, 2011, 07:42:34 AM EDT

Whoa, "more tolerant"? - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2011, 10:55:42 PM EDT

dont forget dessicated porcupines :-) -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 29, 2011, 08:23:16 PM EDT

And as far as tolerance: - (crazy) - (58) - Sept. 29, 2011, 08:03:09 AM EDT

Well then - (beepster) - (57) - Sept. 29, 2011, 09:34:47 AM EDT

You don't get to own the word. - (crazy) - (28) - Sept. 29, 2011, 09:58:41 AM EDT

My statements? - (beepster) - (27) - Sept. 29, 2011, 10:45:31 AM EDT

Path of least resistance? - (crazy) - (26) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:07:20 PM EDT

Hmm. You appear to not be paying attention. - (beepster) - (25) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:17:20 PM EDT

Marriage - (crazy) - (24) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:30:25 PM EDT

Can't believe this - (beepster) - (23) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:37:53 PM EDT

And neither does anyone else - (crazy) - (22) - Sept. 29, 2011, 10:32:02 PM EDT

Sure appears that way - (beepster) - (21) - Sept. 30, 2011, 08:31:38 AM EDT

Ah, me idiot - (crazy) - (20) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:30:20 AM EDT

I don't need to re-read - (beepster) - (19) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:41:47 AM EDT

Hmm, I thought our laws were dervied from English common law - (Another Scott) - (18) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:26:10 AM EDT

dig deeper - (beepster) - (17) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:33:51 AM EDT

I think I can make the argument - (S1mon_Jester) - (16) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:40:07 AM EDT

Yup - (crazy) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:41:32 AM EDT

Know what. - (beepster) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2011, 12:09:39 PM EDT

Very good example - (crazy) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 12:16:05 PM EDT

Of what, exactly. - (beepster) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2011, 12:18:28 PM EDT

If you say so - (crazy) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 12:22:36 PM EDT

There's an accusation now? - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2011, 12:34:57 PM EDT

Easily - (crazy) - Sept. 30, 2011, 06:44:22 PM EDT

Hey, I'm a canon law scholar now, yay - (crazy) - Sept. 30, 2011, 12:18:34 PM EDT

That would all be well and good. - (beepster) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2011, 12:12:20 PM EDT

Not sure it is. - (S1mon_Jester) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2011, 05:20:53 PM EDT

Thank you. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 30, 2011, 05:26:19 PM EDT

Re: Not sure it is. - (beepster) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 06:47:33 PM EDT

Actually, if you read carefully... - (S1mon_Jester) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2011, 07:48:38 PM EDT

Can't cut and paste from pdf - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 08:22:49 PM EDT

Here is your quote. - (S1mon_Jester) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2011, 10:10:29 PM EDT

Concession - (beepster) - Oct. 1, 2011, 10:57:24 PM EDT

Also, you STOLE the word and the concept - (crazy) - (14) - Sept. 29, 2011, 10:12:33 AM EDT

>I< didn't do anything - (beepster) - (13) - Sept. 29, 2011, 10:47:46 AM EDT

Sure, when your people killed off the competition - (crazy) - (12) - Sept. 29, 2011, 11:52:19 AM EDT

You mean, like Islam? - (beepster) - (11) - Sept. 29, 2011, 11:59:48 AM EDT

Sure - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:10:39 PM EDT

ICLRPD - (rcareaga) - Sept. 29, 2011, 05:04:59 PM EDT

Interesting side track - (crazy) - (8) - Sept. 29, 2011, 11:21:02 PM EDT

You disavow your own arguments so easily - (beepster) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2011, 08:47:25 AM EDT

"intolerant" - (crazy) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:29:04 AM EDT

to what point and to what end - (beepster) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:29:44 AM EDT

No, I'm not - (crazy) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:41:27 AM EDT

Wrong, and there you go again - (beepster) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:49:32 AM EDT

Good - (crazy) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:50:55 AM EDT

Who? - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:00:59 AM EDT

I had the same decision - (crazy) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:36:55 AM EDT

"Separate but equal" doesn't work. We tried that. - (Another Scott) - (12) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:14:14 PM EDT

You are missing the point to..so let me be clear - (beepster) - (11) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:35:12 PM EDT

Nice try. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:42:39 PM EDT

Re: Nice try. - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2011, 05:18:20 PM EDT

Why does it matter? -NT - (crazy) - Sept. 29, 2011, 11:16:33 PM EDT

better yet, no need for a state marriage license at all - (boxley) - (7) - Sept. 29, 2011, 08:27:00 PM EDT

Agreed -NT - (crazy) - (6) - Sept. 29, 2011, 10:51:38 PM EDT

Argh - (beepster) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2011, 08:51:13 AM EDT

No, I want it at the FEDERAL level - (crazy) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:10:14 AM EDT

Go back and read, butthead - (beepster) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:39:35 AM EDT

The single word matters - (crazy) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:49:51 AM EDT

no, actually it doesn't. - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2011, 10:55:34 AM EDT

Of course not - to you - (crazy) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:46:07 AM EDT

Well, a little off there... - (S1mon_Jester) - (15) - Sept. 29, 2011, 11:51:32 AM EDT

Re: Well, a little off there... - (beepster) - (14) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:03:48 PM EDT

I like irony. I'm ok with that - (crazy) - Sept. 29, 2011, 12:24:09 PM EDT

Really, you haven't heard of Richard Cohen? - (S1mon_Jester) - (12) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:03:46 AM EDT

Hmm - (beepster) - (11) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:09:34 AM EDT

Nope. - (S1mon_Jester) - (10) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:12:50 AM EDT

NO IT WAS NOT - (beepster) - (9) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:22:26 AM EDT

My apologies - your argument was that - (S1mon_Jester) - (8) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:37:50 AM EDT

He doesn't do that - (crazy) - Sept. 30, 2011, 11:43:37 AM EDT

Ask youself - (beepster) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2011, 12:20:33 PM EDT

Apparently not acceptable to you... - (S1mon_Jester) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2011, 04:53:47 PM EDT

Well then, - (beepster) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 06:38:52 PM EDT

Tough when you don't understand the culture -NT - (crazy) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2011, 06:48:08 PM EDT

You proven only one thing here - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 06:56:52 PM EDT

Such a surprise - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2011, 08:25:34 PM EDT

You had an argument with yourself - (beepster) - Sept. 30, 2011, 08:31:55 PM EDT

Re: why am I not surprised - (pwhysall) - Sept. 28, 2011, 02:15:44 PM EDT

It was pretty inevitable - (jay) - Sept. 28, 2011, 03:40:14 PM EDT

If one has the patience.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 28, 2011, 08:43:03 PM EDT

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