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Post #348,117 by beepster 9/24/11 12:09:19 PM Reply	Re: Bullshit back If you can't audit from service order to invoice, you're doing it wrong. I do this for a living too. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #348,131 by crazy 9/24/11 4:28:07 PM Reply	Wrong? No. Wrong would be paying more than the negotiated amount. Wrong would be starving the attendants. Anything in between is subject to negotiation. The guy who ordered the food is in the room when it shows up. Even if he's not, by definition someone from our company is. If it is "wrong", he'll bitch and it will be made right. Or if they can't, it will be noted an we'll negotiate a discount. But we sure as hell are not going over individual bills and bitching about the cost of the items, we have a conference to run, and the food is just fine. If everything is done for the auditors, than nothing will ever get done. Sure, they are important when dealing at the big ticket items, but there is a reason they are called bean counters. Sometimes it costs more to count the beans than to spend them.
Post #348,133 by beepster 9/24/11 4:43:07 PM Reply	Dude, yes, wrong. 1) this is government. There are rules. They must be followed. 2) If you don't build an audit path and FORCE the management to that trail, you >will< get screwed. Period. (and a very good example seems to have been found by the auditors in this case). You build the conference by putting together the orders. You end the conference by paying the bills that match those orders and/or any change orders made during the conference (all must be signed and ONLY signed by agreed upon parties..anything outside of this WILL NOT BE PAID). Yes it is a fuckload of paperwork. Thats why conference planners exist...and why anyone doing this for a living has contract terms with the hotel/conference center that state specifically how differences will be dealt with. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.

Muffin Watch - (beepster) - (73) - Sept. 20, 2011, 12:32:59 PM EDT

Good thing nobody ever said that, isn't it? -NT - (drook) - (50) - Sept. 20, 2011, 12:36:48 PM EDT

It's certainly been implied - (beepster) - (49) - Sept. 20, 2011, 12:39:28 PM EDT

They sure could - (drook) - (48) - Sept. 20, 2011, 01:07:55 PM EDT

homeland security would be a good start - (boxley) - (6) - Sept. 20, 2011, 01:56:40 PM EDT

Wow. - (folkert) - (5) - Sept. 20, 2011, 02:41:53 PM EDT

yup, lets get America back -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 20, 2011, 02:47:39 PM EDT

We can't do that! - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 20, 2011, 03:13:00 PM EDT

rather deal with the mischief makers than the feds - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2011, 03:29:05 PM EDT

Can't find that meaning, what is it? -NT - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2011, 03:37:42 PM EDT

look at the title of this article - (boxley) - Sept. 20, 2011, 07:18:05 PM EDT

Hmm - (beepster) - (40) - Sept. 20, 2011, 05:01:03 PM EDT

Nope, not ridiculing the implication - (drook) - (39) - Sept. 20, 2011, 05:37:32 PM EDT

Re: Nope, not ridiculing the implication - (beepster) - (37) - Sept. 20, 2011, 06:10:49 PM EDT

Yes. We can keep "our" money. - (mmoffitt) - (21) - Sept. 21, 2011, 08:25:59 AM EDT

Now you get to the point - (beepster) - (20) - Sept. 21, 2011, 08:52:52 AM EDT

Re: Now you get to the point - (folkert) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2011, 10:45:34 AM EDT

Forgetting - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2011, 10:48:33 AM EDT

We've no choice. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 21, 2011, 01:47:33 PM EDT

You must buy insurance. - (mmoffitt) - (16) - Sept. 21, 2011, 02:01:08 PM EDT

Actually - (beepster) - (15) - Sept. 22, 2011, 07:59:37 AM EDT

How much is too much is a matter of perspective. - (mmoffitt) - (14) - Sept. 22, 2011, 12:20:10 PM EDT

Understanding of value to consumers - (beepster) - (13) - Sept. 22, 2011, 12:36:56 PM EDT

If the workers Unite, there is no government. ;0) - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Sept. 22, 2011, 01:37:55 PM EDT

Knew you'd get there :-) - (beepster) - (11) - Sept. 22, 2011, 02:57:31 PM EDT

Smooth - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:33:01 PM EDT

Re: Smooth - (beepster) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:42:23 PM EDT

That may be the best ... - (mmoffitt) - (8) - Sept. 23, 2011, 09:12:59 AM EDT

Now wait just a minute - (beepster) - (7) - Sept. 23, 2011, 09:30:39 AM EDT

"Real bottom up." Nice try. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Sept. 23, 2011, 10:03:14 AM EDT

well other than the fact I buy - (boxley) - Sept. 23, 2011, 10:12:12 AM EDT

Can't - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2011, 11:00:13 AM EDT

Re: Can't - (S1mon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2011, 12:16:05 PM EDT

Note: He said "your" - (crazy) - Sept. 24, 2011, 05:50:32 AM EDT

Beep won't be happy until everyone works in a Maquiladora - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2011, 05:48:06 AM EDT

only if he runs the Maquilador -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 24, 2011, 09:54:39 AM EDT

Still, scale matters - (S1mon_Jester) - (14) - Sept. 21, 2011, 11:34:14 AM EDT

Sigh - (beepster) - (13) - Sept. 21, 2011, 12:26:36 PM EDT

Re: Sigh - (S1mon_Jester) - (12) - Sept. 21, 2011, 01:06:18 PM EDT

dunno about tea partiers - (boxley) - (10) - Sept. 21, 2011, 01:18:41 PM EDT

chuckle. - (S1mon_Jester) - (9) - Sept. 22, 2011, 10:10:33 AM EDT

You are the only one mentioning a specific administration - (beepster) - (8) - Sept. 22, 2011, 12:08:46 PM EDT

naw, I think even he is getting sick of him -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 22, 2011, 12:18:35 PM EDT

Allow me to quote you... - (S1mon_Jester) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2011, 01:38:40 PM EDT

will grant you obamacare - (beepster) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2011, 02:52:26 PM EDT

road to the airport dammit -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2011, 03:26:00 PM EDT

Re: road to the airport dammit - (beepster) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:26:49 PM EDT

You stepped on the "AK" thinger for boxley! -NT - (folkert) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:41:44 PM EDT

yes I did. - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:46:26 PM EDT

True. -NT - (folkert) - Sept. 22, 2011, 06:13:31 PM EDT

Re: Sigh - (beepster) - Sept. 21, 2011, 01:25:45 PM EDT

the government isnt a profit center - (boxley) - Sept. 20, 2011, 07:02:32 PM EDT

Tro you a bone - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2011, 09:14:20 AM EDT

I should sue for prior art - (beepster) - Sept. 23, 2011, 09:36:25 AM EDT

Re: Muffin Watch - (lincoln) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2011, 08:24:12 PM EDT

Re: Muffin Watch - (beepster) - (4) - Sept. 24, 2011, 12:58:41 AM EDT

Bullshit back - (crazy) - (3) - Sept. 24, 2011, 05:43:30 AM EDT

Re: Bullshit back - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2011, 12:09:19 PM EDT

Wrong? - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2011, 04:28:07 PM EDT

Dude, - (beepster) - Sept. 24, 2011, 04:43:07 PM EDT

aaannd ... retraction. - (altmann) - (13) - Sept. 30, 2011, 01:45:54 PM EDT

Unpossible! -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 30, 2011, 01:53:24 PM EDT

So ... - (drook) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:03:49 PM EDT

Don't hold your breath. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:24:27 PM EDT

What he said -NT - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:34:00 PM EDT

s /he/she/ :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:52:52 PM EDT

Yeah, whichever :-P -NT - (drook) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:54:23 PM EDT

Ibid. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:47:58 PM EDT

In this example, - (beepster) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:36:04 PM EDT

Cool - (beepster) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:33:02 PM EDT

Lots of people believe that ... do you? -NT - (drook) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:34:43 PM EDT

Re: Lots of people believe that ... do you? - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:37:37 PM EDT

That this example proves anything - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2011, 04:02:38 PM EDT

Â¡PrecÃsamÃ©nte..! - (Ashton) - Oct. 1, 2011, 03:08:43 PM EDT

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