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Post #348,424 by drook 9/30/11 2:03:49 PM Reply	So ... Now everyone who said this was an example of how government can't spend money right, so they shouldn't be given any ... all those people will now admit they were wrong? But hey, if we were using it as an example when "we thought it was true" (no we didn't), then what is it an example of now? Maybe it's an example that proves critics of government spending are full of shit who make things up to win arguments. So we don't need to listen to those critics any more. Right? -- Drew
Post #348,425 by Another Scott 9/30/11 2:24:27 PM Reply	Don't hold your breath. Digby's comments on "Smell Test" Scandals 101 is apropos, I think. http://digbysblog.bl...scandals-101.html [...] What to do with this scandal is advance the idea that government spending is inherently corrupt. It's a neat trick after their years of cronyism but they understand the press very well and know this is exactly the kind of "fleecing of America" story they can pull off the shelf and run with without having to think too much. Before long it will just be a shorthand for "Obama scandal" and they'll be off. [...] The more they make the government look like a hopeless, corrupt clown show, the better off they are. I'm not sure how you fight that. I expect it would be a bit easier if the Village media weren't so anxious to jump on every manufactured tid-bit from the right wing noise machine, but I've pretty much given up on them. They are addicted to phony corruption scandals. (The real ones, not so much.) Yup. Cheers, Scott.
Post #348,428 by drook 9/30/11 2:34:00 PM Reply	What he said -- Drew
Post #348,436 by Another Scott 9/30/11 2:52:52 PM Reply	s /he/she/ :-)
Post #348,438 by drook 9/30/11 2:54:23 PM Reply	Yeah, whichever :-P -- Drew
Post #348,435 by mmoffitt 9/30/11 2:47:58 PM Reply	Ibid.
Post #348,431 by beepster 9/30/11 2:36:04 PM Reply	In this example, I was wrong to use it. However, to pretend there aren't hundreds of other examples...well go ahead I suppose, and let this make you feel better that the government is a perfect steward of your money. As long as your comfortable, when they come back to you for more money you'll feel better about it. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.

Muffin Watch - (beepster) - (73) - Sept. 20, 2011, 12:32:59 PM EDT

Good thing nobody ever said that, isn't it? -NT - (drook) - (50) - Sept. 20, 2011, 12:36:48 PM EDT

It's certainly been implied - (beepster) - (49) - Sept. 20, 2011, 12:39:28 PM EDT

They sure could - (drook) - (48) - Sept. 20, 2011, 01:07:55 PM EDT

homeland security would be a good start - (boxley) - (6) - Sept. 20, 2011, 01:56:40 PM EDT

Wow. - (folkert) - (5) - Sept. 20, 2011, 02:41:53 PM EDT

yup, lets get America back -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 20, 2011, 02:47:39 PM EDT

We can't do that! - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 20, 2011, 03:13:00 PM EDT

rather deal with the mischief makers than the feds - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2011, 03:29:05 PM EDT

Can't find that meaning, what is it? -NT - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2011, 03:37:42 PM EDT

look at the title of this article - (boxley) - Sept. 20, 2011, 07:18:05 PM EDT

Hmm - (beepster) - (40) - Sept. 20, 2011, 05:01:03 PM EDT

Nope, not ridiculing the implication - (drook) - (39) - Sept. 20, 2011, 05:37:32 PM EDT

Re: Nope, not ridiculing the implication - (beepster) - (37) - Sept. 20, 2011, 06:10:49 PM EDT

Yes. We can keep "our" money. - (mmoffitt) - (21) - Sept. 21, 2011, 08:25:59 AM EDT

Now you get to the point - (beepster) - (20) - Sept. 21, 2011, 08:52:52 AM EDT

Re: Now you get to the point - (folkert) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2011, 10:45:34 AM EDT

Forgetting - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2011, 10:48:33 AM EDT

We've no choice. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 21, 2011, 01:47:33 PM EDT

You must buy insurance. - (mmoffitt) - (16) - Sept. 21, 2011, 02:01:08 PM EDT

Actually - (beepster) - (15) - Sept. 22, 2011, 07:59:37 AM EDT

How much is too much is a matter of perspective. - (mmoffitt) - (14) - Sept. 22, 2011, 12:20:10 PM EDT

Understanding of value to consumers - (beepster) - (13) - Sept. 22, 2011, 12:36:56 PM EDT

If the workers Unite, there is no government. ;0) - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Sept. 22, 2011, 01:37:55 PM EDT

Knew you'd get there :-) - (beepster) - (11) - Sept. 22, 2011, 02:57:31 PM EDT

Smooth - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:33:01 PM EDT

Re: Smooth - (beepster) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:42:23 PM EDT

That may be the best ... - (mmoffitt) - (8) - Sept. 23, 2011, 09:12:59 AM EDT

Now wait just a minute - (beepster) - (7) - Sept. 23, 2011, 09:30:39 AM EDT

"Real bottom up." Nice try. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Sept. 23, 2011, 10:03:14 AM EDT

well other than the fact I buy - (boxley) - Sept. 23, 2011, 10:12:12 AM EDT

Can't - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2011, 11:00:13 AM EDT

Re: Can't - (S1mon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2011, 12:16:05 PM EDT

Note: He said "your" - (crazy) - Sept. 24, 2011, 05:50:32 AM EDT

Beep won't be happy until everyone works in a Maquiladora - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2011, 05:48:06 AM EDT

only if he runs the Maquilador -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 24, 2011, 09:54:39 AM EDT

Still, scale matters - (S1mon_Jester) - (14) - Sept. 21, 2011, 11:34:14 AM EDT

Sigh - (beepster) - (13) - Sept. 21, 2011, 12:26:36 PM EDT

Re: Sigh - (S1mon_Jester) - (12) - Sept. 21, 2011, 01:06:18 PM EDT

dunno about tea partiers - (boxley) - (10) - Sept. 21, 2011, 01:18:41 PM EDT

chuckle. - (S1mon_Jester) - (9) - Sept. 22, 2011, 10:10:33 AM EDT

You are the only one mentioning a specific administration - (beepster) - (8) - Sept. 22, 2011, 12:08:46 PM EDT

naw, I think even he is getting sick of him -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 22, 2011, 12:18:35 PM EDT

Allow me to quote you... - (S1mon_Jester) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2011, 01:38:40 PM EDT

will grant you obamacare - (beepster) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2011, 02:52:26 PM EDT

road to the airport dammit -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2011, 03:26:00 PM EDT

Re: road to the airport dammit - (beepster) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:26:49 PM EDT

You stepped on the "AK" thinger for boxley! -NT - (folkert) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:41:44 PM EDT

yes I did. - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2011, 05:46:26 PM EDT

True. -NT - (folkert) - Sept. 22, 2011, 06:13:31 PM EDT

Re: Sigh - (beepster) - Sept. 21, 2011, 01:25:45 PM EDT

the government isnt a profit center - (boxley) - Sept. 20, 2011, 07:02:32 PM EDT

Tro you a bone - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2011, 09:14:20 AM EDT

I should sue for prior art - (beepster) - Sept. 23, 2011, 09:36:25 AM EDT

Re: Muffin Watch - (lincoln) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2011, 08:24:12 PM EDT

Re: Muffin Watch - (beepster) - (4) - Sept. 24, 2011, 12:58:41 AM EDT

Bullshit back - (crazy) - (3) - Sept. 24, 2011, 05:43:30 AM EDT

Re: Bullshit back - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2011, 12:09:19 PM EDT

Wrong? - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2011, 04:28:07 PM EDT

Dude, - (beepster) - Sept. 24, 2011, 04:43:07 PM EDT

aaannd ... retraction. - (altmann) - (13) - Sept. 30, 2011, 01:45:54 PM EDT

Unpossible! -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 30, 2011, 01:53:24 PM EDT

So ... - (drook) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:03:49 PM EDT

Don't hold your breath. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:24:27 PM EDT

What he said -NT - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:34:00 PM EDT

s /he/she/ :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:52:52 PM EDT

Yeah, whichever :-P -NT - (drook) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:54:23 PM EDT

Ibid. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:47:58 PM EDT

In this example, - (beepster) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:36:04 PM EDT

Cool - (beepster) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:33:02 PM EDT

Lots of people believe that ... do you? -NT - (drook) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:34:43 PM EDT

Re: Lots of people believe that ... do you? - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2011, 02:37:37 PM EDT

That this example proves anything - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2011, 04:02:38 PM EDT

Â¡PrecÃsamÃ©nte..! - (Ashton) - Oct. 1, 2011, 03:08:43 PM EDT

Get thee to a nunnery! O besmirched daughter of priapic Chic-worship.
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