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New When the sheep have had enough...
The sheep aren't going to move to "fix" things violently (and it will certainly be violent, and messy, and will not be regarded by any sane survivor of the cataclysm as "fixed" in the sense of an improvement over the status quo ante) until they have been fitted with brown shirts and instructed by their oligarchic overlords.

I trust that we can agree on this much: our present plight is a distant consequence of the fall of the USSR. The existence of a major power pledged, however imperfectly, to an ideal of social justice served as a counterweight to the expression of our plutocrats' direst impulses. When that moral impediment was removed, the darkest tendencies of our predatory empire were unleashed.

cordially,
New My fav-Aunt, a schoolteacher of tykes, was leaning
towards "communism" in the '30s--as were so many people with brains, who merely had to look around:
at what Robber Barons had precipitated upon everyone.
(Of course, in those early years it wasn't at all evident whether the excesses of the fledgling replacements for the Tsars were ... merely inept?)
or had become massive hypocrites [as here, in '30s Murica. Or now, in '11s Murica.]

So I see your point of the putative VS the actuality: after-all, few (anywhere) had sources of authentic information across the entire USSR, then
and they naturally mistrusted the purveyors of the same-old vulture-capitalist swill still offered as ... the Only alternative to godless-'isms'.

Now.. had Putin shed his leprous-spots and (say) aimed the ex-USSR in a 'socialist' direction similar to the Scandinavian countries? And also made authentic progress at creating a less WInner-take-All melange??
Why then.. the current troglodytes might indeed have Cause to Fear that the most disgusting aspects of their game: finally is in jeopardy of being found-out.

Now {ugghh} back to the standard disingenuous 'world' of the Greedheads everywhere.
Ahhh the seduction of Infinite Power: little wonder that people are mesmerized by replays of the "Iron Mike" detonation
(first real thermonuclear explosion: which was way beyond calc. yield because they forgot Something in those equations. Elugalap island was entirely vaporized.)
--> The one producing that eerie, "spotted" hemisphere of plasma which lingered for the longest time..
(I always read that startling film clip to mean): Are you SURE you want to Go--->HERE???

Little boys fancy that, They want one of Those, Too. That's what will kill us/the species; the details will be pedestrian, as always.
New At last, common ground.
I could not agree more with your closing paragraph. And in my post, the use of the word "fix" was not meant to convey that I thought things would be better. "Fix" in the context of which I used it meant an ouster of the oligarchs. Ten years ago or so, I was visting NC and ran into a physician friend who, in his later years, had become quite the Right Winger. We argued for a while and then I said to him, "Look, Bert. You've got a choice. You can start sharing a little of what you have now or you can refuse. But if you refuse, those people you won't share with now will some day come to you and take all that you have."

Losing the Soviet Union as a counter-balance certainly did not serve us well. But, people do not revolt until they are hungry. And this country is the breadbasket of the world. That fact coupled with the fact that except for a time 150 years ago when we were killing ourselves for a handful of years, we've never really suffered any sort of invasion or violence on our own turf that left us in shambles. So, we are not comfortable with even the hypothetical that we might suffer some discomfort. Revolution causes discomfort in the extreme and we are loathe to consider it. But, if we get hungry enough...well, who knows?

Food is getting expensive - protein cost will go up at least another 10% in the coming year. Is that enough? Perhaps not. But it looks increasingly like we have a "never to be employed again" class that is growing. If it reaches critical mass and there isn't enough food, well, maybe this old Socialist will live long enough to see the revolution after all.
New "People are close to revolt."
http://www.theatlant...to-revolt/244651/

Yesterday I quoted a long-time Congressional staffer -- one involuntarily retired by the mid-term results in 2010 -- who ratified previous comments about the Republican-led nihilism of the Congress and the disgusted reaction it was evoking in the rest of the country. A university librarian in the Midwest responds:

[...]


It may not take high food prices and hunger...

Cheers,
Scott.
New Don't discount hunger in America.
1 in 7 of us is receiving food stamps already. :0(
New There are ALWAYS checks and balances
The ones that are inside the system tend to be much prettier.
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Badass! (and delicious)
     Entertaining thread at B-J on POTUS speech next week. - (Another Scott) - (23)
         Re: Entertaining thread at B-J on POTUS speech next week. - (lincoln) - (22)
             Drama's over. It'll be Thursday the 8th. Oh well. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 The Great Capitulator capitulates again. What's new? -NT - (mmoffitt)
             Typical of this administration - (jay) - (19)
                 What do you mean it "looks like" he caved? - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                     when you plan an event armed with a shovel and hardhat - (boxley)
                     Not exactly - (jay)
                 Most people don't care. - (Another Scott) - (15)
                     Concur, it's That simple. -NT - (Ashton)
                     Most people are no longer supporters. - (hnick) - (11)
                         There is an aspect of that pov which looms large - (Ashton)
                         They're winning the shouting; They're not getting substance. - (Another Scott) - (9)
                             And if he wins? - (hnick) - (8)
                                 I think people have an unrealistic idea - (rcareaga)
                                 Whomever wins, Wall St and Banksters will come out on top. - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                                     When the sheep have had enough... - (rcareaga) - (5)
                                         My fav-Aunt, a schoolteacher of tykes, was leaning - (Ashton)
                                         At last, common ground. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                             "People are close to revolt." - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 Don't discount hunger in America. - (mmoffitt)
                                         There are ALWAYS checks and balances - (mhuber)
                     most people will care if the new date impacts 8:30pm -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                         Not to worry. - (Another Scott)

Doh! Wrong button, Scott!
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