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Post #345,524
by S1mon_Jester
8/1/11 3:37:20 PM
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New And you think Congress wouldn't put that excise fee into the
budget?

A $42.3 billion defense budget bill passed by the House will cut $270 million from the TSA and eliminate collective bargaining privileges for TSA workers.


http://townhall.com/...n_from_tsa_budget

http://www.washingto...XmnaHH_story.html

If it's all done via excise fees, the House can't cut funding.
Post #345,527
by beepster
8/1/11 4:13:35 PM
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New Staffing
eliminate collective bargain? Sounds like staffing issues to me.

The ticket excise tax is just that..a tax. Generally its used as FAA funding..and PFCs are supposed to be "lock boxed" for airport development...but we all know how well those lock boxes work.

Airlines are one of the highest taxed and most regulated "deregulated" industries we have. (jet fuel and payroll are 2 highest expenses...both taxed) and the revenue taxed at 10% before you get to the special security fees, etc.

Combined with their cutthroat pricing model, its not much of a surprise that they don't earn profits.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,617
by S1mon_Jester
8/3/11 12:24:46 AM
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New LOL....Here, let me emphasis it for you.
Here...let me emphasis it for you.
will cut $270 million from the TSA


I'll repeat it again - how can you CUT TSA budget if they're not in the budget?

Nevermind...I'll give up on whether or not TSA is in the budget.

If the House can CUT their BUDGET once...they can do it AGAIN.
Post #345,618
by beepster
8/3/11 8:08:20 AM
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New guessing your point is simply
that the TSA is part of the government.

On this, I don't debate you. Part of and paid for from the Dept Homeland Security.

Sources of funds that are "supposed to" help pay are the items I was point towards...but in the end..its all one big happy source of revenue for them to blow.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,628
by S1mon_Jester
8/3/11 3:24:30 PM
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New Want to know what's sad?
The only ones who seem to be up for cutting back TSA (in particular the full-body scanners) are Tea Partiers. I'm finding myself agreeing with them.
     Poor bastards - (drook) - (84) - July 27, 2011, 11:02:44 PM EDT
         Right. - (beepster) - (25) - July 27, 2011, 11:00:57 PM EDT
             Non sequitur, as usual. -NT - (Another Scott) - (22) - July 28, 2011, 07:04:42 AM EDT
                 really? - (beepster) - (21) - July 28, 2011, 09:16:10 AM EDT
                     Where? -NT - (Another Scott) - (20) - July 28, 2011, 09:50:25 AM EDT
                         I think he's looking here - (S1mon_Jester) - (19) - July 28, 2011, 11:01:49 AM EDT
                             Re: I think he's looking here - (malraux) - (18) - July 28, 2011, 11:47:57 AM EDT
                                 The whining that the rich have been doing for a few years - (jake123) - July 28, 2011, 12:04:21 PM EDT
                                 Dammit, we lost - (drook) - (16) - July 28, 2011, 01:15:11 PM EDT
                                     well.. - (beepster) - (15) - July 28, 2011, 02:04:18 PM EDT
                                         How many people making $250k have their own jets? - (drook) - (14) - July 28, 2011, 03:25:06 PM EDT
                                             Re: How many people making $250k have their own jets? - (beepster) - (13) - July 28, 2011, 04:20:46 PM EDT
                                                 The problem with that argument - (drook) - (11) - July 28, 2011, 04:36:30 PM EDT
                                                     the tpers can't drive the bus - (beepster) - (10) - July 29, 2011, 09:10:43 AM EDT
                                                         That explains why Boehner got the bill passed last night -NT - (drook) - (9) - July 29, 2011, 01:40:58 PM EDT
                                                             getting zero dems helps that cause along quite well. -NT - (beepster) - (8) - July 29, 2011, 01:54:34 PM EDT
                                                                 Having the majority is rough, isn't it? -NT - (Another Scott) - (7) - July 29, 2011, 02:01:26 PM EDT
                                                                     not particularly. - (beepster) - (6) - July 29, 2011, 03:22:59 PM EDT
                                                                         [sigh] There *is* a difference - (drook) - (5) - July 29, 2011, 03:31:49 PM EDT
                                                                             no there is not - (beepster) - (4) - July 29, 2011, 04:31:47 PM EDT
                                                                                 You're actually a 'bot, aren't you. <sigh> -NT - (Another Scott) - (3) - July 29, 2011, 04:37:10 PM EDT
                                                                                     well... - (beepster) - (2) - July 29, 2011, 04:47:26 PM EDT
                                                                                         So you're saying - (S1mon_Jester) - (1) - July 30, 2011, 01:38:34 AM EDT
                                                                                             Of course he is - (lincoln) - July 30, 2011, 12:42:02 PM EDT
                                                 About T.E.A. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 2, 2011, 08:10:53 AM EDT
             Liar - (drook) - (1) - July 28, 2011, 09:51:14 AM EDT
                 what...ever -NT - (beepster) - July 28, 2011, 02:05:42 PM EDT
         No, no. Not $250k/yr - $30k/yr is rich. - (Another Scott) - (57) - July 29, 2011, 08:46:27 PM EDT
             Yup, just saw that - (drook) - (1) - July 29, 2011, 09:05:32 PM EDT
                 thats why the dems want a cut of your 401k - (boxley) - July 29, 2011, 10:15:01 PM EDT
             go to the original article - (beepster) - (53) - July 29, 2011, 10:07:38 PM EDT
                 Dean reads the WaPo so I don't have to. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (52) - July 29, 2011, 10:16:34 PM EDT
                     He got that one wrong - (beepster) - (51) - July 29, 2011, 10:35:51 PM EDT
                         Dean Baker has addressed those talking points many times. - (Another Scott) - (3) - July 29, 2011, 11:28:48 PM EDT
                             whoopie for him;-) - (beepster) - (2) - July 30, 2011, 05:56:04 AM EDT
                                 It directly follows from the "logic" of the WaPo article. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 30, 2011, 06:02:41 AM EDT
                                     no, it doesn't - (beepster) - July 30, 2011, 06:04:49 AM EDT
                         Isn't the military budget increasing? - (S1mon_Jester) - (46) - July 30, 2011, 01:36:45 AM EDT
                             by percentage. not dollars. -NT - (beepster) - (45) - July 30, 2011, 05:54:33 AM EDT
                                 Of course... - (Another Scott) - (44) - July 30, 2011, 07:01:49 AM EDT
                                     Funnier still - (beepster) - (17) - July 30, 2011, 08:10:59 AM EDT
                                         <sigh> -NT - (Another Scott) - July 30, 2011, 08:59:08 AM EDT
                                         Re: Funnier still - (hnick) - (7) - July 30, 2011, 09:23:20 AM EDT
                                             Bullshit. Its right in there...always is.. - (beepster) - (6) - July 31, 2011, 01:31:40 PM EDT
                                                 Your selective outrage is frequently tiresome. - (Another Scott) - (5) - July 31, 2011, 02:06:41 PM EDT
                                                     Ah, its selective - (beepster) - (4) - July 31, 2011, 04:19:38 PM EDT
                                                         Well you're sure *trying* to stop it - (drook) - (3) - July 31, 2011, 07:37:49 PM EDT
                                                             Try 5 - (beepster) - (2) - July 31, 2011, 07:59:11 PM EDT
                                                                 How many people got Food Stamps in 1960? - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 31, 2011, 08:15:53 PM EDT
                                                                     pilot started in 61. Act passed in 64. Hmm. - (beepster) - July 31, 2011, 10:37:21 PM EDT
                                         That dead horse won't hunt, - (Ashton) - (7) - July 30, 2011, 06:05:29 PM EDT
                                             if i bothered to translate that.. - (beepster) - (4) - July 31, 2011, 01:32:25 PM EDT
                                                 You won't eat your own dog food.. as usual. - (Ashton) - (3) - July 31, 2011, 06:53:03 PM EDT
                                                     that ain't it. - (beepster) - (2) - July 31, 2011, 08:00:30 PM EDT
                                                         I empathize with that pain you suffer in 'crafting' English. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2011, 05:35:38 PM EDT
                                                             Clearly -NT - (beepster) - Aug. 1, 2011, 06:00:43 PM EDT
                                             Rep. Lamborn likens Obama to a "tar baby" - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2011, 02:41:15 PM EDT
                                                 Colorado, eh? - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 2, 2011, 04:19:24 PM EDT
                                     Percentages and dollars. - (S1mon_Jester) - (25) - Aug. 1, 2011, 12:37:44 AM EDT
                                         or conversely - (beepster) - (24) - Aug. 1, 2011, 01:23:52 AM EDT
                                             What would you cut, and how would you get enough votes? -NT - (Another Scott) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2011, 07:31:01 AM EDT
                                                 Thankfully, not my job - (beepster) - (5) - Aug. 1, 2011, 11:50:06 AM EDT
                                                     What if the popular thing is also the right thing? - (drook) - (4) - Aug. 1, 2011, 12:03:31 PM EDT
                                                         You may underestimate Beep's comprehension of 'the poor' - (Ashton) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2011, 06:02:35 PM EDT
                                                             That would hardly fit - (beepster) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2011, 07:42:28 PM EDT
                                                                 You're making up stuff again... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 1, 2011, 09:43:35 PM EDT
                                                                 Y'know Beep.. - (Ashton) - Aug. 2, 2011, 03:22:48 PM EDT
                                             No. - (S1mon_Jester) - (9) - Aug. 1, 2011, 11:51:08 AM EDT
                                                 the airlines pay tsa -NT - (boxley) - (8) - Aug. 1, 2011, 12:06:25 PM EDT
                                                     Nope. - (S1mon_Jester) - (7) - Aug. 1, 2011, 01:04:55 PM EDT
                                                         Re: Nope. - (beepster) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2011, 02:43:48 PM EDT
                                                             still a lot of money for theatre -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 1, 2011, 02:44:40 PM EDT
                                                             And you think Congress wouldn't put that excise fee into the - (S1mon_Jester) - (4) - Aug. 1, 2011, 03:37:20 PM EDT
                                                                 Staffing - (beepster) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2011, 04:13:35 PM EDT
                                                                     LOL....Here, let me emphasis it for you. - (S1mon_Jester) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2011, 12:24:46 AM EDT
                                                                         guessing your point is simply - (beepster) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2011, 08:08:20 AM EDT
                                                                             Want to know what's sad? - (S1mon_Jester) - Aug. 3, 2011, 03:24:30 PM EDT
                                             typical conservative response: - (lincoln) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2011, 09:58:35 PM EDT
                                                 wrong - (beepster) - (5) - Aug. 2, 2011, 03:38:14 PM EDT
                                                     Strawman much? -NT - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 2, 2011, 08:08:51 PM EDT
                                                         not here. - (beepster) - (3) - Aug. 2, 2011, 08:23:52 PM EDT
                                                             you might think it - (lincoln) - (2) - Aug. 2, 2011, 09:46:07 PM EDT
                                                                 If you're going to say something about republicans - (beepster) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2011, 09:56:46 PM EDT
                                                                     You can have him. He voted for your ticket after all... -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 2, 2011, 10:15:46 PM EDT
             Mark Thoma wasn't impressed with Samuelson, either. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 6, 2011, 10:18:19 PM EDT

It looks like food.
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