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Post #345,510 by S1mon_Jester 8/1/11 11:51:08 AM Reply	No. the draft was in effect back then. Merely reversing course would NOT be enough. To hit 35% without a draft means you'd have to cut far FURTHER. Of course, I'm all for that. Can we get rid of TSA and their stupid full-body scanners?
Post #345,512 by boxley 8/1/11 12:06:25 PM Reply	the airlines pay tsa Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #345,515 by S1mon_Jester 8/1/11 1:04:55 PM Reply	Nope. They pay part of it, but after 9/11, they globalized a large chunk of it and the federal government pays that part. There have been lawsuits over the part the airlines still pay. As directed by the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, the major responsibilities of airline passenger and baggage screening is now handled by our agency. To assist in paying for the increased aviation security, Congress provided us with the authority to charge airlines a fee equal to their costs of passenger and baggage screening in 2000, to the extent that the September 11 Security Fee was insufficient to cover the agency's costs for aviation security. Airlines pay one-twelfth per month of their 2000 screening costs to TSA. http://www.tsa.gov/r...rcarrier_fee.shtm Even though the screeners at airport security checkpoints in the U.S. are employees of the Transportation Security Administration and those fancy new see-through-your-clothes machines are technically paid for by the feds, the airlines still have to fork over hundreds of millions of dollars per year for security theater. Several of them claim the TSA is overcharging to the tune of $115 million. An appeals court disagrees. See, the airlines used to be the ones that would foot the bill for airport security. After the TSA took over in 2001, it was determined that the airlines would continue to pay, but their share was capped at what the airlines spent during the 2000 calendar year. http://consumerist.c...sa-screening.html
Post #345,520 by beepster 8/1/11 2:43:48 PM Reply	Re: Nope. There is the excise ticket tax, fed security fee and pass facility charges on every ticket. Airlines were bitching because air marshals fly first class. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,521 by boxley 8/1/11 2:44:40 PM Reply	still a lot of money for theatre Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #345,524 by S1mon_Jester 8/1/11 3:37:20 PM Reply	And you think Congress wouldn't put that excise fee into the budget? A $42.3 billion defense budget bill passed by the House will cut $270 million from the TSA and eliminate collective bargaining privileges for TSA workers. http://townhall.com/...n_from_tsa_budget http://www.washingto...XmnaHH_story.html If it's all done via excise fees, the House can't cut funding.
Post #345,527 by beepster 8/1/11 4:13:35 PM Reply	Staffing eliminate collective bargain? Sounds like staffing issues to me. The ticket excise tax is just that..a tax. Generally its used as FAA funding..and PFCs are supposed to be "lock boxed" for airport development...but we all know how well those lock boxes work. Airlines are one of the highest taxed and most regulated "deregulated" industries we have. (jet fuel and payroll are 2 highest expenses...both taxed) and the revenue taxed at 10% before you get to the special security fees, etc. Combined with their cutthroat pricing model, its not much of a surprise that they don't earn profits. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,617 by S1mon_Jester 8/3/11 12:24:46 AM Reply	LOL....Here, let me emphasis it for you. Here...let me emphasis it for you. will cut $270 million from the TSA I'll repeat it again - how can you CUT TSA budget if they're not in the budget? Nevermind...I'll give up on whether or not TSA is in the budget. If the House can CUT their BUDGET once...they can do it AGAIN.
Post #345,618 by beepster 8/3/11 8:08:20 AM Reply	guessing your point is simply that the TSA is part of the government. On this, I don't debate you. Part of and paid for from the Dept Homeland Security. Sources of funds that are "supposed to" help pay are the items I was point towards...but in the end..its all one big happy source of revenue for them to blow. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,628 by S1mon_Jester 8/3/11 3:24:30 PM Reply	Want to know what's sad? The only ones who seem to be up for cutting back TSA (in particular the full-body scanners) are Tea Partiers. I'm finding myself agreeing with them.

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