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Post #345,468 by drook 7/31/11 7:37:49 PM Reply	Well you're sure trying to stop it Pensions: 12.9 Health Care: 14.2 Education: 2.4 Defense: 14.6 Welfare: 8.7 Protection: 0.9 Transportation: 1.6 Yes, let's return to those golden days of 1960 when 40 million (22.2% of the population) was in poverty (census.gov). When we were building nuclear weapons like no tomorrow. When the USSR was shooting down US planes. When black students couldn't get lunch at Woolworth's. When voting rights were restricted in many areas of the South. Etc., etc. That's 12 issues I count there. Two of them were about racism. He's not the one who keeps focusing on it. -- Drew
Post #345,474 by beepster 7/31/11 7:59:11 PM Reply	Try 5 and 2 of the 5 were. The rest were statistics. Not issues. Issues raised were the cold war and racism. And one of those statistics WOULD actually want you to go back to that age..as people that were in poverty for more than 2 or more months in the 2004-6 time frame was 28.9%...so at least on that front, we were better off back then. http://www.census.go...ics04/table2a.pdf Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,476 by Another Scott 7/31/11 8:15:53 PM Reply	How many people got Food Stamps in 1960? How many people got Medicare in 1960? Comparing apples to apples shows your conclusion that things were better in 1960 is wrong. http://en.wikipedia....rate_timeline.gif Cheers, Scott.
Post #345,491 by beepster 7/31/11 10:37:21 PM Reply	pilot started in 61. Act passed in 64. Hmm. And your census appears to differ from mine yet still shows no improvement since 65...for all that growth in government that is supposed to stop it. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.

Poor bastards - (drook) - (84) - July 27, 2011, 11:02:44 PM EDT

Right. - (beepster) - (25) - July 27, 2011, 11:00:57 PM EDT

Non sequitur, as usual. -NT - (Another Scott) - (22) - July 28, 2011, 07:04:42 AM EDT

really? - (beepster) - (21) - July 28, 2011, 09:16:10 AM EDT

Where? -NT - (Another Scott) - (20) - July 28, 2011, 09:50:25 AM EDT

I think he's looking here - (S1mon_Jester) - (19) - July 28, 2011, 11:01:49 AM EDT

Re: I think he's looking here - (malraux) - (18) - July 28, 2011, 11:47:57 AM EDT

The whining that the rich have been doing for a few years - (jake123) - July 28, 2011, 12:04:21 PM EDT

Dammit, we lost - (drook) - (16) - July 28, 2011, 01:15:11 PM EDT

well.. - (beepster) - (15) - July 28, 2011, 02:04:18 PM EDT

How many people making $250k have their own jets? - (drook) - (14) - July 28, 2011, 03:25:06 PM EDT

Re: How many people making $250k have their own jets? - (beepster) - (13) - July 28, 2011, 04:20:46 PM EDT

The problem with that argument - (drook) - (11) - July 28, 2011, 04:36:30 PM EDT

the tpers can't drive the bus - (beepster) - (10) - July 29, 2011, 09:10:43 AM EDT

That explains why Boehner got the bill passed last night -NT - (drook) - (9) - July 29, 2011, 01:40:58 PM EDT

getting zero dems helps that cause along quite well. -NT - (beepster) - (8) - July 29, 2011, 01:54:34 PM EDT

Having the majority is rough, isn't it? -NT - (Another Scott) - (7) - July 29, 2011, 02:01:26 PM EDT

not particularly. - (beepster) - (6) - July 29, 2011, 03:22:59 PM EDT

[sigh] There *is* a difference - (drook) - (5) - July 29, 2011, 03:31:49 PM EDT

no there is not - (beepster) - (4) - July 29, 2011, 04:31:47 PM EDT

You're actually a 'bot, aren't you. <sigh> -NT - (Another Scott) - (3) - July 29, 2011, 04:37:10 PM EDT

well... - (beepster) - (2) - July 29, 2011, 04:47:26 PM EDT

So you're saying - (S1mon_Jester) - (1) - July 30, 2011, 01:38:34 AM EDT

Of course he is - (lincoln) - July 30, 2011, 12:42:02 PM EDT

About T.E.A. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 2, 2011, 08:10:53 AM EDT

Liar - (drook) - (1) - July 28, 2011, 09:51:14 AM EDT

what...ever -NT - (beepster) - July 28, 2011, 02:05:42 PM EDT

No, no. Not $250k/yr - $30k/yr is rich. - (Another Scott) - (57) - July 29, 2011, 08:46:27 PM EDT

Yup, just saw that - (drook) - (1) - July 29, 2011, 09:05:32 PM EDT

thats why the dems want a cut of your 401k - (boxley) - July 29, 2011, 10:15:01 PM EDT

go to the original article - (beepster) - (53) - July 29, 2011, 10:07:38 PM EDT

Dean reads the WaPo so I don't have to. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (52) - July 29, 2011, 10:16:34 PM EDT

He got that one wrong - (beepster) - (51) - July 29, 2011, 10:35:51 PM EDT

Dean Baker has addressed those talking points many times. - (Another Scott) - (3) - July 29, 2011, 11:28:48 PM EDT

whoopie for him;-) - (beepster) - (2) - July 30, 2011, 05:56:04 AM EDT

It directly follows from the "logic" of the WaPo article. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 30, 2011, 06:02:41 AM EDT

no, it doesn't - (beepster) - July 30, 2011, 06:04:49 AM EDT

Isn't the military budget increasing? - (S1mon_Jester) - (46) - July 30, 2011, 01:36:45 AM EDT

by percentage. not dollars. -NT - (beepster) - (45) - July 30, 2011, 05:54:33 AM EDT

Of course... - (Another Scott) - (44) - July 30, 2011, 07:01:49 AM EDT

Funnier still - (beepster) - (17) - July 30, 2011, 08:10:59 AM EDT

<sigh> -NT - (Another Scott) - July 30, 2011, 08:59:08 AM EDT

Re: Funnier still - (hnick) - (7) - July 30, 2011, 09:23:20 AM EDT

Bullshit. Its right in there...always is.. - (beepster) - (6) - July 31, 2011, 01:31:40 PM EDT

Your selective outrage is frequently tiresome. - (Another Scott) - (5) - July 31, 2011, 02:06:41 PM EDT

Ah, its selective - (beepster) - (4) - July 31, 2011, 04:19:38 PM EDT

Well you're sure *trying* to stop it - (drook) - (3) - July 31, 2011, 07:37:49 PM EDT

Try 5 - (beepster) - (2) - July 31, 2011, 07:59:11 PM EDT

How many people got Food Stamps in 1960? - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 31, 2011, 08:15:53 PM EDT

pilot started in 61. Act passed in 64. Hmm. - (beepster) - July 31, 2011, 10:37:21 PM EDT

That dead horse won't hunt, - (Ashton) - (7) - July 30, 2011, 06:05:29 PM EDT

if i bothered to translate that.. - (beepster) - (4) - July 31, 2011, 01:32:25 PM EDT

You won't eat your own dog food.. as usual. - (Ashton) - (3) - July 31, 2011, 06:53:03 PM EDT

that ain't it. - (beepster) - (2) - July 31, 2011, 08:00:30 PM EDT

I empathize with that pain you suffer in 'crafting' English. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2011, 05:35:38 PM EDT

Clearly -NT - (beepster) - Aug. 1, 2011, 06:00:43 PM EDT

Rep. Lamborn likens Obama to a "tar baby" - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2011, 02:41:15 PM EDT

Colorado, eh? - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 2, 2011, 04:19:24 PM EDT

Percentages and dollars. - (S1mon_Jester) - (25) - Aug. 1, 2011, 12:37:44 AM EDT

or conversely - (beepster) - (24) - Aug. 1, 2011, 01:23:52 AM EDT

What would you cut, and how would you get enough votes? -NT - (Another Scott) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2011, 07:31:01 AM EDT

Thankfully, not my job - (beepster) - (5) - Aug. 1, 2011, 11:50:06 AM EDT

What if the popular thing is also the right thing? - (drook) - (4) - Aug. 1, 2011, 12:03:31 PM EDT

You may underestimate Beep's comprehension of 'the poor' - (Ashton) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2011, 06:02:35 PM EDT

That would hardly fit - (beepster) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2011, 07:42:28 PM EDT

You're making up stuff again... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 1, 2011, 09:43:35 PM EDT

Y'know Beep.. - (Ashton) - Aug. 2, 2011, 03:22:48 PM EDT

No. - (S1mon_Jester) - (9) - Aug. 1, 2011, 11:51:08 AM EDT

the airlines pay tsa -NT - (boxley) - (8) - Aug. 1, 2011, 12:06:25 PM EDT

Nope. - (S1mon_Jester) - (7) - Aug. 1, 2011, 01:04:55 PM EDT

Re: Nope. - (beepster) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2011, 02:43:48 PM EDT

still a lot of money for theatre -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 1, 2011, 02:44:40 PM EDT

And you think Congress wouldn't put that excise fee into the - (S1mon_Jester) - (4) - Aug. 1, 2011, 03:37:20 PM EDT

Staffing - (beepster) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2011, 04:13:35 PM EDT

LOL....Here, let me emphasis it for you. - (S1mon_Jester) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2011, 12:24:46 AM EDT

guessing your point is simply - (beepster) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2011, 08:08:20 AM EDT

Want to know what's sad? - (S1mon_Jester) - Aug. 3, 2011, 03:24:30 PM EDT

typical conservative response: - (lincoln) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2011, 09:58:35 PM EDT

wrong - (beepster) - (5) - Aug. 2, 2011, 03:38:14 PM EDT

Strawman much? -NT - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 2, 2011, 08:08:51 PM EDT

not here. - (beepster) - (3) - Aug. 2, 2011, 08:23:52 PM EDT

you might think it - (lincoln) - (2) - Aug. 2, 2011, 09:46:07 PM EDT

If you're going to say something about republicans - (beepster) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2011, 09:56:46 PM EDT

You can have him. He voted for your ticket after all... -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 2, 2011, 10:15:46 PM EDT

Mark Thoma wasn't impressed with Samuelson, either. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 6, 2011, 10:18:19 PM EDT

... should the Index Book of Everything in the Library contain a listing for
... The Index Book?
... which is also in the Library.
... or would that belong in the Meta-Index..
... or The List of Lists...
... or The Index of Indices....
... which Cannot be placed In The Library.....!
... (but only in the Meta-Library???)
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