Re: Funnier still

Post #345,405 by hnick 7/30/11 9:23:20 AM Reply	Re: Funnier still It's not racism we are reverting to, it's feudalism. If there's racism involved, it's just a teeny teeny part. HTH.
Post #345,425 by beepster 7/31/11 1:31:40 PM Reply	Bullshit. Its right in there...always is.. the quote.. "When black students couldn't get lunch at Woolworth's. When voting rights were restricted in many areas of the South." Always there. You might think its teeny tiny. but its ALWAYS THERE. talking about going back to a smaller government "like it was"...99% of the time is met with..."oh, like when blacks couldn't drink out the same water fountains" or some such nonsense. Nother just did it..and then sighed when I called him on it... oh freakin well. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,432 by Another Scott 7/31/11 2:06:41 PM Reply	Your selective outrage is frequently tiresome. I gave several examples of what things were like in 1960: the poverty rate; a nuclear buildup and actual confrontations during the cold war; and civil rights issues that we've at least partially overcome. Part of the reason why things aren't like that any more is because the federal government spends more on social programs, is more active in civil rights issues, and spends proportionally less on the military now than it did then. I didn't pick 1960 out of my ear - it was in Samuelson's OpEd. It was his example of a time we should return to. My point, right there in this thread, is that talking about spending without talking about what the money actually buys is stupid. But you seemingly want to turn my comment into some rant about racism. It's rather tiresome that you can't stay on a topic. Go play your guitar or something and cheer up. Cheers, Scott.
Post #345,437 by beepster 7/31/11 4:19:38 PM Reply	Ah, its selective I see. So why don't we select the topic to stay on..instead of linking to things that change that topic to racism...which that one did? And gee...why does that seem to happen all the time? Oh, I dunno. Convenient way to stop an inconvenient topic. Possibly. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,468 by drook 7/31/11 7:37:49 PM Reply	Well you're sure trying to stop it Pensions: 12.9 Health Care: 14.2 Education: 2.4 Defense: 14.6 Welfare: 8.7 Protection: 0.9 Transportation: 1.6 Yes, let's return to those golden days of 1960 when 40 million (22.2% of the population) was in poverty (census.gov). When we were building nuclear weapons like no tomorrow. When the USSR was shooting down US planes. When black students couldn't get lunch at Woolworth's. When voting rights were restricted in many areas of the South. Etc., etc. That's 12 issues I count there. Two of them were about racism. He's not the one who keeps focusing on it. -- Drew
Post #345,474 by beepster 7/31/11 7:59:11 PM Reply	Try 5 and 2 of the 5 were. The rest were statistics. Not issues. Issues raised were the cold war and racism. And one of those statistics WOULD actually want you to go back to that age..as people that were in poverty for more than 2 or more months in the 2004-6 time frame was 28.9%...so at least on that front, we were better off back then. http://www.census.go...ics04/table2a.pdf Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #345,476 by Another Scott 7/31/11 8:15:53 PM Reply	How many people got Food Stamps in 1960? How many people got Medicare in 1960? Comparing apples to apples shows your conclusion that things were better in 1960 is wrong. http://en.wikipedia....rate_timeline.gif Cheers, Scott.
Post #345,491 by beepster 7/31/11 10:37:21 PM Reply	pilot started in 61. Act passed in 64. Hmm. And your census appears to differ from mine yet still shows no improvement since 65...for all that growth in government that is supposed to stop it. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.

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