Post #345,300
7/28/11 4:36:30 PM
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The problem with that argument
It sounds entirely reasonable. "Okay, maybe the rich should be paying a bit more. But people making $250k aren't rich, they're people who busted their asses to get where they are."
Yup, that may be true. But if anyone concedes that point and says, "Sure, let's start at a million," then you know as well as I do the TP-ers will say that those people are hard working small business owners. And if you move it to 10 million then those people will be "job creators".
TP-ers don't want to compromise. Take one step in their direction and they back up two more steps.
At this point the president should just shoot for rolling back the Bush tax cuts entirely. If that means people making $200k and above take a hit, so be it.
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Drew
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Post #345,332
7/29/11 9:10:43 AM
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the tpers can't drive the bus
there aren't enough of them.
And you take EVERYONE ELSE, general republicans included, and marginalize them.
Rolling back the bush tax cuts entirely hits EVERYBODY, not just those making over 200k. Might not be a horrible idea...but try and get that through ;-)
Hell, with the dems offering plans that cut next to nothing and voting in block against the repo plan which isn't much better...maybe by this time next week we'll be bankrupt and sell ourselves to the Chinese for pennies on the dollar.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
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Post #345,353
7/29/11 1:40:58 PM
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That explains why Boehner got the bill passed last night
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Drew
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Post #345,355
7/29/11 1:54:34 PM
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getting zero dems helps that cause along quite well.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
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Post #345,358
7/29/11 2:01:26 PM
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Having the majority is rough, isn't it?
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Post #345,361
7/29/11 3:22:59 PM
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not particularly.
but I notice no uproar any longer about block no voting by a single party, do I?
Bueller?
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
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Post #345,362
7/29/11 3:31:49 PM
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[sigh] There *is* a difference
When the majority says openly that their #1 priority is making Obama a one-term president, and their action confirm they don't give a shit what they blow up or who gets hurt along the way, then yeah, I have no problem with opposing that.
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Drew
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Post #345,366
7/29/11 4:31:47 PM
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no there is not
except in your head.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
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Post #345,367
7/29/11 4:37:10 PM
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You're actually a 'bot, aren't you. <sigh>
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Post #345,369
7/29/11 4:47:26 PM
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well...
...maybe on this one instance of a vote I'll forgive. problem is, though, it's been happening pretty much since the change. Silence.
This time, they're fighting the good fight for their beliefs.
Also convenient that y'all like this side better than the others.
As church lady says...isn't that >convenient<
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
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Post #345,394
7/30/11 1:38:34 AM
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So you're saying
that the Democrats are using the same tactics as Republicans?
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Post #345,409
7/30/11 12:42:02 PM
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Of course he is
that way he can easily rationalize the false equality of responsibility for the debt crisis. RepubliCANTS are totally responsible for this false crisis that they have manufactured to give them the opportunity to shove their ideology down the throats of Americans, who would never let such crap occur if they tried this under a different political scenario.
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."
-- E.L. Doctorow
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