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Post #343,719 by SpiceWare 6/14/11 2:10:46 PM Reply	Yep All the promise of change, yet so much stayed the course (Guantanamo still open, Bush tax cuts extended, transparency, etc). Well, one thing changed - you now get sexually assaulted for wanting to fly on a plane.
Post #343,721 by mmoffitt 6/14/11 2:54:25 PM Reply	Bingo on the plane. My former student pilot daughter's experience at FWA has made her determined to never fly commercial again. And I don't blame her. I saw it and was powerless to do anything about it. It made me physically ill.
Post #343,726 by Ashton 6/14/11 5:09:47 PM Reply	Haven't flown since 9/11.. And Who-the-Fuck Would WANT TO?! (as opposed to Have-to bizness and other obligations you can't wangle out of.) I suspect that my next flight is apt to be one-way, anyway--if enough ducks stay in a row.) As the er, avoirdupois of the average passenger has risen and Spam-in-Can anti-convenience has triumphed in cabin layouts, the average passenger must look at a commercial flight today as, primarily an Ordeal, I wot. You get 'transported' to a new spot after being assaulted (psychologically and physically, often) at all stages of flight until you Exit the province of the mouth-breathers in Uniforms and then ... may have ... a limited-return of basic Rights, (well, the few still operative since sniveling Patriot Act nullification.) (While this process may be a bit less onerous than the standing-room-only boxcars heading for Belsen, it is guaranteed to kill..OK maim any happy feelings re a 'vacation', either coming or going.) But OTOH / Devil's advocate arena: indeed there Are folks who Do want to kill us--all over the place. Wonder. Why. ...since we're such a Like-able bunch of trash-talkin imperialists, so long as everyone agrees with us. Maybe the Death of Pleasurable flying exactly fits the karma we've generated? since we stole the land from its original inhabitants, while singing all those treacly psalms about brotherly love / along with that second chorus, Die Redskin! When everyone is fear-besotted, mobility suffers and dies, eh? Ergo: bin-L Won, cha cha cha -- what an ROI for a few $100K! I could almost see voting for ~~Palin~~ Cthulhu in 2012 on the grounds that this sorry ratfucking excuse for a republic, this savage, smirking, predatory empire deserves her. Bring on the Rapture, motherfuckers! -- via RC
Post #343,760 by mmoffitt 6/15/11 2:13:58 PM Reply	Wife is flying commercial on Saturday. Here's hoping her experience leads to a loosening of the purse strings sufficient to afford me an aircraft reasonably capable of a trip out west. :0)
Post #343,761 by Another Scott 6/15/11 2:22:08 PM Reply	:-)
Post #343,762 by boxley 6/15/11 2:23:49 PM Reply	cheaper http://www.flightopt...KkCFc_D7QodX1uCSQ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #343,764 by mmoffitt 6/15/11 2:52:41 PM Reply	Not a lot. And one of these would be a hell of a lot more fun! http://www.aso.com/l...al=True&dealerid=
Post #343,765 by boxley 6/15/11 2:55:31 PM Reply	very sweet Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #343,766 by S1mon_Jester 6/15/11 3:25:36 PM Reply	There for a while the dual engines were fairly cheap. (Since you need a multi-engine rating, double the fuel costs. Looking over at controller.com...some are much cheaper (but alas, that's the limit of my multi-engine experience). Sidenote: a 1966 with only 1027 hrs on the airframe?
Post #343,772 by mmoffitt 6/15/11 4:37:05 PM Reply	Flown by a little old lady in Pasadena. (To church and back)
Post #343,791 by Steve Lowe 6/16/11 1:56:06 AM Reply	I'd rather drive. In fact I love road trips! But when they start monitoring vehicle mileage to tax you, I'm done with that, too.
Post #343,805 by boxley 6/16/11 8:14:20 AM Reply	no worries will steal someone elses bug for long road trips or buy an eprom burner Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep

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