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Post #338,652
by lincoln
1/15/11 2:38:44 PM
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New trying to put your words into my mouth
another straw man attempt on your part. Another fail.




"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."

-- E.L. Doctorow
Post #338,653
by beepster
1/15/11 2:44:31 PM
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New No I'm not. I'm countering the implication in your link.
you posted a link of a very astute observation...that Mr Z was careful.

Then they go on to at least imply that regardless of that fact, its a bad thing that he was carrying.

How about the other what if...that the shooter had reloaded and was getting ready to let off another 31 rounds and Mr Z got out there and took him down?

Would we be implying that he should not have been allowed to carry then?
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #338,656
by lincoln
1/15/11 2:48:38 PM
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New We can play "What If" all day long if you want




"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."

-- E.L. Doctorow
Post #338,661
by beepster
1/15/11 3:36:47 PM
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New Yes we can
and come to completely different conclusions doing so. Felt it was rather poor writing on the part of your original author, however...as it relied on what actually did NOT happen to support the case.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #338,654
by beepster
1/15/11 2:45:57 PM
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New AH, wrong link level.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
     "Why doesn't everybody just carry a gun?" - (lincoln) - (19) - Jan. 12, 2011, 09:44:34 PM EST
         Re: "Why doesn't everybody just carry a gun?" - (boxley) - Jan. 13, 2011, 10:37:04 AM EST
         Looks to me like proof that - (beepster) - (17) - Jan. 13, 2011, 11:37:03 AM EST
             Zamudio was ready to shoot the guy with the pistol - (lincoln) - (16) - Jan. 13, 2011, 11:01:43 PM EST
                 Not just luck. - (Andrew Grygus) - Jan. 13, 2011, 11:48:22 PM EST
                 so your point is - (beepster) - (13) - Jan. 14, 2011, 07:49:12 AM EST
                     No - (jake123) - (7) - Jan. 14, 2011, 12:05:35 PM EST
                         Does this also apply to law enforcement? - (beepster) - (6) - Jan. 14, 2011, 12:12:32 PM EST
                             Strawman much? -NT - (jake123) - (5) - Jan. 14, 2011, 12:28:59 PM EST
                                 Yep. Certainly do. - (beepster) - (4) - Jan. 14, 2011, 01:42:03 PM EST
                                     Dude, you're completely mischaracterizing what I said - (jake123) - (3) - Jan. 14, 2011, 01:55:39 PM EST
                                         Possible - (beepster) - (2) - Jan. 14, 2011, 02:04:52 PM EST
                                             I don't know anything about the Tom Brokaw thing - (jake123) - (1) - Jan. 14, 2011, 02:09:08 PM EST
                                                 Should read all of my posts then ;-) - (beepster) - Jan. 14, 2011, 02:23:49 PM EST
                     trying to put your words into my mouth - (lincoln) - (4) - Jan. 15, 2011, 02:38:44 PM EST
                         No I'm not. I'm countering the implication in your link. - (beepster) - (2) - Jan. 15, 2011, 02:44:31 PM EST
                             We can play "What If" all day long if you want -NT - (lincoln) - (1) - Jan. 15, 2011, 02:48:38 PM EST
                                 Yes we can - (beepster) - Jan. 15, 2011, 03:36:47 PM EST
                         AH, wrong link level. -NT - (beepster) - Jan. 15, 2011, 02:45:57 PM EST
                 The hesitation was not luck - (crazy) - Jan. 16, 2011, 07:52:28 AM EST

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