Post #333,536
10/1/10 1:51:56 PM
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SEC: May 6 crash caused by one trading outfit.
http://www.nytimes.c...lash.html?_r=1&hp
It said that at about 2:32 p.m., a mutual fund  which was not identified in the report, but which officials have identified as Waddell & Reed Financial of Kansas  started a program to sell 75,000 E-Mini Standard &PoorÂs 500 futures contracts, using computer sell algorithms. Normally, a sale of this size would take place over as many as five hours, but the large sale was executed in 20 minutes, the regulators said.
The algorithm was programmed to execute the trade Âwithout regard to price or time, the report said.
The selling pressure was then transferred from the futures markets to the stock market, leading to the abrupt drop in individual stocks.
Stock and stock-index futures prices were already declining on May 6 when, about 2:42 p.m., they suddenly plunged by more than 5 percent over the next five minutes.
When prices bottomed at about 2:47 p.m., the Dow Jones industrial average was down nearly 990 points, 9.1 percent below where it had started the day. Almost as quickly as prices dropped, however, they rebounded, with the Dow industrials recovering 543 points in about 90 seconds. The Dow finished the day down 347.80, or 3.2 percent, at 10,520.32.
Following the preliminary report in May, the S.E.C. announced it was temporarily instituting circuit breakers on all the stocks in the S. & P.Âs 500-stock index, in an effort to stop another crash happening again.
I dunno the best way to fix this, but the system is broken.
How about: Trades can only be executed 3 business days after the order is placed. That would certainly put a cramp in these folks business plans that are based on microcent swings in milliseconds. :-/ The system needs to reward prudence, not being first at all costs...
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #365,086
10/8/12 9:21:38 AM
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Felix: Icebreakers to save 20 ms, and the Flash Crash.
http://blogs.reuters...requency-trading/
A good read. Some excerpts.
But! If you can lay an undersea cable across the Arctic, you can save yourself about 5,000 miles, not to mention the risk of routing your information past a lot of political flash points. And when youÂre sitting in your office in London and you get that dollar/yen exchange rate from Tokyo, itÂs fresh from the oven, comparatively speaking: only 0.168 seconds old. If everybody else is using the old cables and youÂre using the new ones, then you have somewhere between 20 milliseconds and 60 milliseconds when you know something they donÂt.
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The more obvious problem with exchanges run by computers is that computers donÂt have any common sense. We saw this on the 6th of May, 2010 Â the day of the so-called Âflash crashÂ, when in a matter of a couple of minutes the US stock market plunged hundreds of points for no particular reason, and some stocks traded at a price of just one cent. It was sheer luck that the crash happened just before 3pm, rather than just before 4pm, and that as a result there was time for the market to recover before the closing bell. If there hadnÂt been, then Asian markets would have sold off as well, and then European markets, and hundreds of billions of pounds of value would have been destroyed, just because of a trading glitch which started on something called the e-mini contract in Chicago.
Most of the trading on US stock exchanges is done by something called algobots, these days. These are algorithms: theyÂre computers which are programmed to put in orders, take out orders, trade in big size, trade in small size  all according to very sophisticated rules, called algorithms. And one of the ironies about the flash crash is that it was actually caused in large part by algobots not trading. The US has over a dozen different stock exchanges, places where stocks are bought and sold. Most of us have only ever heard of the listing exchanges, the New York Stock Exchange and the Nasdaq. But there are many more you probably havenÂt heard of, with names like Arca and BATS, as well as sinister-sounding things called Dark Pools. What happened in the flash crash is that when the trading got completely crazy, the algobots just switched themselves off. This was something they werenÂt used to, they didnÂt know how to react, and so they just went away. And there was suddenly no liquidity in the market. No one was offering to trade. And with no one offering to trade, the prices just plunged, all the way down to one cent. Because there were no bids in the market any more.
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In any case, if any given stock exchange is an incredibly complicated thing, the fragmentation of the stock exchanges has created a much more complex system yet. Most big banks and stockbrokers  and the algobots they control  have access to all of the different exchanges, and they trade wherever they think they can get the best prices. Since the best prices tend to be found wherever the most traders are trading, you end up with something a bit like six-year-olds playing football: everybodyÂs running towards the ball at the same time. And the result is these huge waves of activity, where traders move en masse, from one stock exchange to the next, in very unpredictable ways. If you layer that unpredictability on top of the complexity inherent in any system of multiple stock exchanges, you end up with something which will almost certainly break in a pretty catastrophic manner at some point. We donÂt know how, and we donÂt know when, but thereÂs an ironclad rule of any system: the more complex it is, the less predictable it is, and the more likely it is to fail catastrophically in some unforeseeable manner.
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This is a real improvement, which means that the rise of high-frequency trading had genuinely beneficial effects between, say, 2002 and 2007. In those years, the computers helped markets to become ever more efficient and liquid  and they were just in time, too. When the financial crisis came along in 2008, bond markets seized up, but the worldÂs stock markets actually came through with flying colors. They did what markets are supposed to do: they went down when people were selling, and they kept on falling until they were so cheap that people started buying again. If you wanted to sell, you could always sell, and if you wanted to buy, you could always buy. We take these things for granted, but creating a system which stays that liquid, all the way through such a big crisis, is a real achievement, and the algobots deserve a lot of credit there. After all, imagine what would have happened if you had to phone up your broker at Lehman Brothers in order to sell your shares.
But if you look at whatÂs happened over the past five years, since 2007, the benefits of high-frequency trading have pretty much plateaued. And the downsides are becoming more and more obvious. There was the flash crash, of course, and then there was the implosion of Knight Capital, one of the biggest and most respected high-frequency trading shops, which released a faulty algorithm one morning and was almost bankrupt an hour later, after losing somewhere in the region of $10 million per minute. If that could happen to Knight, it could happen to anybody. Then there was the botched flotation of one of the stock exchanges, BATS. Once again, its algorithms turned out to be not up to the task. And this was in an expected, rather than an unexpected, situation.
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There's a simple solution to the problems in high-frequency trading - a transactions tax. (And maybe a tax on "price probing" offers of trades that are placed then immediately canceled as mentioned in the comments.) We need it. But if Rmoney and his ilk win, then it's more likely for "Job Creators" like these folks to get tax credits and rebates for laying fiber every which way to save another few microseconds than for this stuff to be reigned in.
Cheers,
Scott.
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