We did it! Yahoo stopped the remodel! We won!

Post #333,385 by Nightowl 9/29/10 6:48:22 PM Reply	We did it! Yahoo stopped the remodel! We won! The vice preseident of Yahoo Communities posted today that Classic Groups on Yahoo can stay the way they are! http://www.ygroupsbl...=1#comment-279756 I can't believe it, me and my group of people who protested, we did it!!!!!!! We won! Stunned Owl, Brenda ___________________________________________________________________ When asking God for a break, be sure to specify what KIND you want!
Post #333,386 by Another Scott 9/29/10 7:10:11 PM Reply	For now... Congratulations. Not to be a wet blanket, but remember, the forces that wanted to make the changes are still out there. Don't be surprised if the "new and improved" version comes back from the dead. (Just about every user-comment system I recall has had rollouts of improvements that went through multiple cycles of steps forward, reversions to previous, etc. - InfoWorld, TPM, etc. Eventually the owners/managers did what they wanted anyway.) Cheers, Scott.
Post #333,387 by Nightowl 9/29/10 7:21:01 PM 9/29/10 7:23:22 PM Reply	Re: For now... Another Scott wrote:>>Not to be a wet blanket, but remember, the forces that wanted to make the changes are still out there. Don't be surprised if the "new and improved" version comes back from the dead.<< They said they were going to make the new user interface an option for people rather than force it onto our groups. They even admitted that the new format didn't even work for a basic listserv. So that was positive. Another Scott wrote:>>(Just about every user-comment system I recall has had rollouts of improvements that went through multiple cycles of steps forward, reversions to previous, etc. - InfoWorld, TPM, etc. Eventually the owners/managers did what they wanted anyway.)<< Well, I had reached the press and was talking to them, and they contacted Yahoo. Also the CEO was in a press conference today and that was probably another factor, and bottom line, the fact that almost 50,000 users had already left Yahoo and another 70,000+ stood poised to do it if they didn't give us the option for Classic, I suspect that got their attention. ;) It probably also helped that the person they put in charge of it, she didn't even know what a listserv was, or what a group was used for! So when it got above those people out of the complaint thread and we spread it all over the Internet, the higher ups heard it and then acted. :) I may not trust it implicitly, but I believe for now, like you said, we've won! It was a long fight, but there are a lot of happy Yahoo group users out there tonight. ;) Brenda Oh, and the amazing part? I finally got their attention with a poem I e-mailed to Yahoo, and the news outlets. ;) It's in the next post. ;) ___________________________________________________________________ When asking God for a break, be sure to specify what KIND you want! Edited by Nightowl Sept. 29, 2010, 07:23:22 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #333,388 by Nightowl 9/29/10 7:23:59 PM Reply	How I got the attention of the Press ;) by Brenda \| 5 days ago YATANIC, ICEBERG! DEAD AHEAD! For weeks weÂve been striving To save Classic Groups. Since Yahoo just wants us To jump through their hoops. A group was created To further our goal. We threw ourselves into The cause, heart and soul There were 100 members In no time at all, All joining together To stop this downfall. We wrote YahooÂs Execs, And the media too, Even told Advertisers What they planned to do. We feverishly worked, Though it was a gamble, While in her blog, Layla, Continued to ramble. ÂStop this remodelÂ, We shouted as one, ÂYou have no idea, Of the damage youÂve done! YouÂre destroying our archives! Post numbers are gone, Threading is chaos, And our subjects are gone! We donÂt want your silly Grey grinning ghosts! Bring back our home page, It mattered the most! Our photos are scrambled, Some even are missing, Why are you doing this? Our pleas youÂre dismissing! We simply canÂt function With your new ÂYabookÂ! Just give us an opt out, To keep Classic Look! Things that were private, Have been compromised! Members lists show, And even archives! We have no control of our Management functions, Some people are thinking Of filing injunctions! The thousands of posts In the Suggestion Thread, Are all going ignored, CanÂt you hear what weÂve said? STOP THIS REMODEL, We donÂt want this mess! YouÂve upset us all, And youÂre causing distress! If we wanted Facebook, Then we would be there! Our groups are our ÂhomesÂ Do you even care? You came with a bulldozer, YouÂre crushing them flat! DonÂt do this, weÂd rather Just stay where weÂre at! DonÂt you know thousands Of users are leaving? And all of the rest are Just sitting here grieving? Please listen to us, While we are still here, Because if you donÂt, Then surely I fear, No one will be left, To hear what you say WeÂll be in our lifeboats, All paddling away Cause we see the iceberg, And before it can hit, WeÂve all made our plans, WeÂre ready to quit. So please take a minute, Slow down and think? Because your Yatanic, Well, itÂs doomed to sink.Â By Nightowl >8# (Owner of http://tech.groups.y...p/modsandmembers/) ___________________________________________________________________ When asking God for a break, be sure to specify what KIND you want!
Post #333,391 by static 9/29/10 8:10:50 PM Reply	Sounds like we have a culprit. Hopefully a certain head has rolled, specifically the clown in charge of this "remodel" who didn't know what a listserv was. Wade. Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers? A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
Post #333,400 by Nightowl 9/30/10 1:27:14 AM 9/30/10 1:31:25 AM Reply	Her name is Layla... She seemed to be rather clueless about everything. I don't know if she's still there, but if she is, I pray they removed her from being in charge of groups. She made me nauseated with her pep talks..."You'll LOVE the new format!" "It's wonderful!" blah blah blah... Apparently she hasn't held a job for more than a year and half on average, other than her last one. People dug up all kinds of history on her. http://www.linkedin....in/laylasabourian She used to work management for....E-Bay! When first shown a group, she didn't understand it, so she thought ok, I don't understand this so I'll change it. (shaking my head) Thank goodness, the right people realized what was going on and stopped it. Brenda ___________________________________________________________________ When asking God for a break, be sure to specify what KIND you want! Edited by Nightowl Sept. 30, 2010, 01:31:25 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #333,405 by static 9/30/10 5:32:33 AM Reply	I changed my mind. She shouldn't get fired: Yahoo should hang on to her but demote her so she has time and space to learn about what Yahoo has actually been up to all these years and why people like it. Wade. Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers? A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.

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