Do you really think

Let's assume you present well.
Let's assume you wow them.

And then they hire you.

And in 2 week your boss tells you to work on some legacy code.
And you tell him to f'off because they did that in your last job and kept you pigeonholed for years.

And even if you don't overtly respond, you will seethe. You are a seether. So you will be shitty to work with.

I gave you a shot years ago. I seem to recall you interviewed over the phone with me and couple of other people. Total skill mismatch, ie: you didn't offer us anything we could use, and your attitude when this started to become clear was hostile.

You need to keep in mind a hiring manager might have 1/2 a dozen positions in the pipeline, requiring all different kinds of skills. You are interviewing for something, it may be a mismatch, but a position that opens up down the line might be a good match. That 1st interview puts you at the TOP of the list for the next interview if you behave, are nice about it, and quickly accept that you are mismatch for the current one. If you try to fight it, they'll shitcan your resume for all positions since you are difficult to work with.

I had to apologize to my coworkers for your behavior. So stop telling people you are much better during interviews. You aren't. This was a phone screen run by a couple of people who were already favorable to you and it went bad fast.

Post #331,775 by lincoln 8/24/10 8:31:02 PM Reply	Do you really think that I'm exactly the same way in an interview as I am here? Seriously, are you that delusional? "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #331,777 by malraux 8/24/10 8:43:00 PM Reply	Attitude flows through. You may not think it does, but it does. The negativity, the combativeness, these will be apparent. It is very rare that I hire someone who turns out to be completely different than they appeared in an interview. Attitude is pervasiveness, and word choice, anecdotes you tell, how you present in body language... these will all show. Additionally, there is a whole group of highly connected IT people here that you are managing to alienate on a daily basis. "Delusional". Case in point. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #331,793 by crazy 8/25/10 6:46:27 AM 8/25/10 6:53:15 AM Reply	Let's assume you aren't Let's assume you present well. Let's assume you wow them. And then they hire you. And in 2 week your boss tells you to work on some legacy code. And you tell him to f'off because they did that in your last job and kept you pigeonholed for years. And even if you don't overtly respond, you will seethe. You are a seether. So you will be shitty to work with. I gave you a shot years ago. I seem to recall you interviewed over the phone with me and couple of other people. Total skill mismatch, ie: you didn't offer us anything we could use, and your attitude when this started to become clear was hostile. You need to keep in mind a hiring manager might have 1/2 a dozen positions in the pipeline, requiring all different kinds of skills. You are interviewing for something, it may be a mismatch, but a position that opens up down the line might be a good match. That 1st interview puts you at the TOP of the list for the next interview if you behave, are nice about it, and quickly accept that you are mismatch for the current one. If you try to fight it, they'll shitcan your resume for all positions since you are difficult to work with. I had to apologize to my coworkers for your behavior. So stop telling people you are much better during interviews. You aren't. This was a phone screen run by a couple of people who were already favorable to you and it went bad fast. Edited by crazy Aug. 25, 2010, 06:48:11 AM EDT Edited by crazy Aug. 25, 2010, 06:53:15 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #331,794 by malraux 8/25/10 7:15:45 AM Reply	^------- This. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #331,854 by lincoln 8/25/10 9:13:14 PM Reply	shoot me an email with the specifics I'd like to check my notes from back then. "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #331,868 by folkert 8/25/10 10:26:24 PM Reply	Its doesn;t matter your opinion or view of the subject. What matters is what the Employer sees. I very sorry you can't get that through your head. At least 4 jobs in this thread alone.

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