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Post #331,480 by drook 8/17/10 9:21:40 PM Reply	There's a line I remember from back before PHP won* The biggest problem with PHP is it's easy enough for any old idiot to use it. The really brainless ones can't even do a "Hello World" in c. * And yes, it won. WordPress and Facebook. -- Drew
Post #331,482 by static 8/17/10 10:43:24 PM Reply	Indeed. http://stackoverflow...ble/316061#316061 Basically, one of the greatest advantages of PHP is that it doesn't force you into a framework. Unfortunately, one of the greatest disadvantages of PHP is that it doesn't force you into a framework. :-/ Wade. Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers? A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
Post #331,484 by drook 8/18/10 12:36:02 AM Reply	And you can be in and out of a framework at the same time WordPress is one gigantic framework. If you want to write something small and self-contained within it, you still can. You probably shouldn't, but it's possible. -- Drew

So I'm preparing my laptop for the roadtrip - (lincoln) - (83) - Aug. 14, 2010, 10:43:43 AM EDT

throw linux on it if you just need - (boxley) - (82) - Aug. 14, 2010, 11:39:02 AM EDT

He won't... - (folkert) - (80) - Aug. 14, 2010, 11:47:54 AM EDT

Recommend application development software on Linux - (lincoln) - (79) - Aug. 14, 2010, 02:35:06 PM EDT

Looking from the wrong direction - (drook) - Aug. 14, 2010, 02:57:15 PM EDT

Java. - (malraux) - (9) - Aug. 14, 2010, 03:55:57 PM EDT

Java looks like something worth considering seriously... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2010, 10:54:57 PM EDT

Thread-jack. - (static) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2010, 03:34:38 AM EDT

java is the new basic - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2010, 09:48:05 AM EDT

Java's worth as a language: - (malraux) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2010, 11:55:59 AM EDT

That's a good point. - (static) - Aug. 15, 2010, 05:06:08 PM EDT

FINALLY - SOMEONE HERE OFFERS A GOOD SUGGESTION! - (lincoln) - (3) - Aug. 16, 2010, 10:19:14 PM EDT

That suggestion was made back then. - (folkert) - (2) - Aug. 16, 2010, 10:26:28 PM EDT

WRONGO! - (lincoln) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2010, 10:06:58 PM EDT

Google "site:iwt.mikevitale.com C#" works. -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 19, 2010, 10:20:09 PM EDT

jboss spring tomcat - (boxley) - Aug. 14, 2010, 10:35:59 PM EDT

oh yeah - (boxley) - Aug. 14, 2010, 10:37:56 PM EDT

On the other hand - (pwhysall) - Aug. 15, 2010, 04:35:33 AM EDT

I said everything I needed to say now and back then. - (folkert) - (64) - Aug. 15, 2010, 11:36:32 AM EDT

You never helped in the first place - (lincoln) - (63) - Aug. 16, 2010, 10:49:56 PM EDT

Poor form, lincoln. - (Another Scott) - (44) - Aug. 16, 2010, 11:11:17 PM EDT

Re: Poor form, lincoln. - (lincoln) - (43) - Aug. 19, 2010, 10:11:10 PM EDT

"... and teach himself other stuff." -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 19, 2010, 10:18:37 PM EDT

I see you are a victim... - (folkert) - (41) - Aug. 20, 2010, 05:56:19 AM EDT

Go talk to your developers - (lincoln) - (40) - Aug. 21, 2010, 04:09:55 PM EDT

Developers for the company I work for... - (folkert) - (3) - Aug. 22, 2010, 12:09:49 PM EDT

well, I think Hell has frozen over. - (lincoln) - (2) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:25:36 PM EDT

That wasn't your question to me though. - (folkert) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:54:01 PM EDT

Re: well, I think Hell has frozen over. - (folkert) - Aug. 25, 2010, 08:06:37 AM EDT

Did you honestly think... - (beepster) - (35) - Aug. 21, 2010, 09:56:30 PM EDT

Hey, whattaya mean "web company" - (crazy) - (34) - Aug. 22, 2010, 03:59:32 AM EDT

Re: Hey, whattaya mean "web company" - (malraux) - (33) - Aug. 22, 2010, 11:49:25 AM EDT

Re: Attitude... - (folkert) - (26) - Aug. 22, 2010, 11:54:18 AM EDT

Re: Attitude... - (SpiceWare) - (25) - Aug. 22, 2010, 12:40:05 PM EDT

OUCH. - (folkert) - (2) - Aug. 22, 2010, 03:10:42 PM EDT

Re: OUCH. - (lincoln) - (1) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:33:54 PM EDT

Victim with a grudge. - (folkert) - Aug. 24, 2010, 09:04:50 PM EDT

your former employer's HR dept. called me in June - (lincoln) - (21) - Aug. 25, 2010, 09:15:46 PM EDT

Was that more or less than you're getting now? - (pwhysall) - (20) - Aug. 26, 2010, 04:12:35 AM EDT

and is first offer ever final? - (beepster) - (19) - Aug. 26, 2010, 09:55:04 AM EDT

There is no way - (lincoln) - (18) - Aug. 26, 2010, 09:40:18 PM EDT

you going to college? - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 27, 2010, 11:03:49 AM EDT

she does have a job - (lincoln) - (1) - Sept. 2, 2010, 08:40:43 PM EDT

that works -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 3, 2010, 10:45:48 AM EDT

You need to re-evaluate. - (beepster) - (11) - Aug. 27, 2010, 12:31:54 PM EDT

Not only that. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 27, 2010, 12:42:21 PM EDT

More good advice that will... - (folkert) - (1) - Aug. 27, 2010, 02:48:07 PM EDT

Re: More good advice that will... - (lincoln) - Sept. 2, 2010, 08:48:18 PM EDT

Already have - (lincoln) - (7) - Sept. 2, 2010, 08:46:51 PM EDT

Advice. - (folkert) - Sept. 2, 2010, 09:31:31 PM EDT

work is work, good luck -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 3, 2010, 10:47:53 AM EDT

Good luck, Brian -NT - (malraux) - Sept. 3, 2010, 11:11:28 AM EDT

Good luck, Brian -NT - (malraux) - Sept. 3, 2010, 11:11:28 AM EDT

Best of luck. - (hnick) - Sept. 3, 2010, 12:03:43 PM EDT

Good deal! - (beepster) - Sept. 3, 2010, 01:00:09 PM EDT

Excellent news. Good luck! -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 4, 2010, 03:09:20 PM EDT

I don't get it. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 29, 2010, 04:40:50 AM EDT

Post #35342 -NT - (lincoln) - (1) - Sept. 2, 2010, 08:49:34 PM EDT

Best of luck with it! -NT - (pwhysall) - Sept. 3, 2010, 12:52:48 AM EDT

Do you really think - (lincoln) - (5) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:31:02 PM EDT

Attitude flows through. - (malraux) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:43:00 PM EDT

Let's assume you aren't - (crazy) - (3) - Aug. 25, 2010, 06:53:15 AM EDT

^------- This. -NT - (malraux) - Aug. 25, 2010, 07:15:45 AM EDT

shoot me an email with the specifics - (lincoln) - (1) - Aug. 25, 2010, 09:13:14 PM EDT

Its doesn;t matter your opinion or view of the subject. - (folkert) - Aug. 25, 2010, 10:26:24 PM EDT

It'll work fine - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2010, 05:50:25 AM EDT

and if you want to be a bit more spritely - (beepster) - Aug. 17, 2010, 11:27:16 AM EDT

512? Not a problem. - (static) - Aug. 17, 2010, 06:29:57 AM EDT

my developers reside within shouting distance - (boxley) - (13) - Aug. 17, 2010, 09:08:14 AM EDT

Well, that's not a big shock - (jake123) - (12) - Aug. 17, 2010, 11:43:30 AM EDT

How so? - (drook) - (5) - Aug. 17, 2010, 11:55:00 AM EDT

Well, indirectly quoting an old prof of mine - (jake123) - (4) - Aug. 17, 2010, 12:36:46 PM EDT

no, disagree - (boxley) - Aug. 17, 2010, 01:10:15 PM EDT

Hmm, not sure - (drook) - (2) - Aug. 17, 2010, 01:43:06 PM EDT

Re: maintenance mode - (jake123) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2010, 02:26:39 PM EDT

Don't think you can plame PHP for that :-) -NT - (drook) - Aug. 17, 2010, 02:49:19 PM EDT

That's a rather negative viewpoint. - (static) - (5) - Aug. 17, 2010, 04:58:18 PM EDT

s/PHP/any programming language -NT - (drook) - (4) - Aug. 17, 2010, 06:08:10 PM EDT

Well, yes. - (static) - (3) - Aug. 17, 2010, 07:01:13 PM EDT

There's a line I remember from back before PHP won* - (drook) - (2) - Aug. 17, 2010, 09:21:40 PM EDT

Indeed. - (static) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2010, 10:43:24 PM EDT

And you can be in and out of a framework at the same time - (drook) - Aug. 18, 2010, 12:36:02 AM EDT

My sofasurfer has 512MB... - (pwhysall) - Aug. 17, 2010, 02:49:55 PM EDT

That's probably the best advice. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2010, 11:52:34 AM EDT

Then again you wonder how certain people sign their names to anything and still choose to leave the house.
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