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New Re: apparent to whom?
--So the D's KNEW one course (it wouldn't pass)and took it

I'm glad to see D's knew exactly how R's would vote.
New Why did they know
because they had about a dozen of their own to offset the republicans who were on the record to vote for passage.

and how horrible would it have been to qualify folks to receive benefits? (ensure citizenship) What a poison pill that would have been.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New No offense, but you missed the point entirely...
Republican can go on the record - they can go off the record. They could have chosen to vote for it, or not.

Blasting Democrats for how REPUBLICANS vote... well...
New no, it appears you did
I'm nowhere near blaming democrats for how republicans vote. But they shouldn't be absolved for this bill failing, either. It was their fault.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New Really?
Frankly I'm still surprised at your actions then.

If it's the Republican fault, you could blast them for not voting for the bill..but that wasn't what you appeared to be doing.

You appeared to be blasting Democrats for choosing a 'hard-line' option...and ignoring the Republican stance completely.
New Really?
Interesting, as I have pretty much not mentioned anything regarding the republican stance here.

You seem to be willing to give Democratic leadership a pass..even though their actions are equally culpable...which is, in essence, the exact response they expected, which, is pretty much exactly why they did what they did.

So which one of us is living more in the moment?
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
     Interesting gamesmanship - (beepster) - (8)
         Re: Interesting gamesmanship - (lincoln) - (7)
             apparent to whom? - (beepster) - (6)
                 Re: apparent to whom? - (Mycroft_Holmes_Iv) - (5)
                     Why did they know - (beepster) - (4)
                         No offense, but you missed the point entirely... - (Mycroft_Holmes_Iv) - (3)
                             no, it appears you did - (beepster) - (2)
                                 Really? - (Mycroft_Holmes_Iv) - (1)
                                     Really? - (beepster)

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