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New Explain to me what a torch or thermite is going to do.
Other than make it worse.

You've got a 20-some-odd inch pipe with something like 2M gal/day of oil (and millions of cubic feet of gas) coming out at 2000+ PSI. What is a torch or thermite going to do to seal that big a leak?

Thanks.

Cheers,
Scott.
New here, have a boo
apparently I am not the only one thinking along these lines
http://www.facebook....topic=95&post=525
To my knowledge, anecdotal information leads me to believe that when Saddam Hussein scuttled offshore production rigs during the invasion of Iraq by the U.S. Military the U.S. Military sealed wells running wild off the coast of Iraq, (off the port of Basra), with the same methods. They weren't as deep, but they purportedly used the same methods for a quick seal.
New Heh.
But I'm discounting this theory as unworkable.


Thought experiments are nice, but reality is a little more complicated.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Who is that mysterious stranger at the end of that page? :-)
New my idea is different as you noticed
New Where's the oxygen going to come from to "burn" it?
It won't work. Sorry.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Doesnt need oxygen, whole point of the idea
its a chemical reaction not a fire
check here under water
http://www.youtube.c...tch?v=d0twTXVlneY
more fun here
http://video.google....1843493488769585#


New Mythbusters Toast 1/2 Ton of Thermite
http://www.youtube.c...Q&feature=related
New Not the same thing.
That's a thermite reaction. You get similar effects dropping pure sodium or pure magnesium in water - lots of heat and lots of light.

"Burning" is oxidation of something.

Putting thermite in a high pressure stream of oil and natural gas isn't going to make the oil and natural gas burn unless there's a significant source of oxygen. There isn't one under the ocean. (Recall that fiery blowouts on land used to be put out with dynamite (which blows away the oxygen for combustion).) Heating up a small portion of the stream to some high temperature isn't going to solve anything.

I suspect the thermite would quickly be extinguished by the rushing oil and gas (e.g. quickly buried by a coating of tar). Plus, there's the minor issue of safely supplying thermite to the well head...

It's not going to work. Sorry.

Cheers,
Scott.
New BTW administration claims 40k bpd not 2 million
New 40k barrels/day * 42 gallons/barrel = 1.7M gal/day. HTH :-)
     when msnbc thinks the prez is a tard - (boxley) - (27)
         Depends on who runs against him, doesn't it? - (Another Scott) - (26)
             brit view - (boxley) - (25)
                 My, things are interesing in Boxleyland. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                 Yeah right - (jake123) - (20)
                     thermite works underwater - (boxley) - (19)
                         You're forgetting the First Rule of Holes. - (Another Scott) - (18)
                             an underwater torch is better than a spill -NT - (boxley) - (11)
                                 Explain to me what a torch or thermite is going to do. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                     here, have a boo - (boxley) - (7)
                                         Heh. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                             Who is that mysterious stranger at the end of that page? :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                             my idea is different as you noticed -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                                 Where's the oxygen going to come from to "burn" it? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                     Doesnt need oxygen, whole point of the idea - (boxley) - (2)
                                                         Mythbusters Toast 1/2 Ton of Thermite - (boxley)
                                                         Not the same thing. - (Another Scott)
                                     BTW administration claims 40k bpd not 2 million -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                         40k barrels/day * 42 gallons/barrel = 1.7M gal/day. HTH :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                             Great comments here by an industry dude - (lincoln) - (5)
                                 Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     ditto, good read -NT - (boxley)
                                 What a nightmare... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     shelburn at TOD responds (on June 25) to DougR - (Another Scott)
                                 Just got around to reading all the TOD material, comments - (Ashton)
                 British media is making sound like the US is anti-British - (SpiceWare) - (2)
                     we are - (boxley) - (1)
                         don't agree, calling something by it's old name is not anti- - (SpiceWare)

Tryggvi and I are both trained chemists, and he actually knows what he's doing.
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