How far can FBI spying go?

Post #3,244 by orion 7/31/01 12:54:31 PM Reply	How far can FBI spying go? [link\|http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,45730,00.html\|[link\|http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,45730,00.html\|http://www.wired.co...5730,00.html]] Apparently a judge is trying to decide if a keylogger log can be used as evidence or if it can be ruled as wire tapping? I think the FBI used the keylogger to get around the guy using PGP encryption in his email. This could be an important case if the keylogger is seen as a wire tap. Or if it is found to violate any federal law. "I can see if I want anything done right around here, I'll have to do it myself!" Moe Howard
Post #3,321 by boxley 7/31/01 9:36:03 PM Reply	guffaw! he didnt notice that vnc was installed? always when you boot or log in look for processes via taskman or ps-ef to see if only what you expect is running. I hope that they decide that this is a wire tap. I am also heartened that they did run the evidence past a judge to get permission. than, bill Our bureaucracy and our laws have turned the world into a clean, safe work camp. We are raising a nation of slaves. Chuck Palahniuk
Post #3,333 by orion 7/31/01 10:17:34 PM Reply	It may have been installed in the keyboard and recorded each keystroke. Which means it also got the mistakes he made and everything else he typed. Also I think there is a way you can hide the program in Windows to not appear in the Task Manager, at least that is what those Taskbar docked applications do, just remove the Taskbar icon and it is impossible to detect. You know, those icons on the right side part of the taskbar where the clock is. Sometimes the virus people rename their virus code to something like "rundli" or something that looks like rundll so you think it is a system process. "I can see if I want anything done right around here, I'll have to do it myself!" Moe Howard
Post #3,627 by jb4 8/2/01 1:47:25 PM Reply	You can also run it as a DLL DLLs do not appear in Task Manager. You could write a DLL and attach it to something you expect to be there (such as Explorer.exe) Or better, rewrite (or append to) an existing DLL such that the keylogger stuff is triggered by additional code added to an otherwise benign DLL entry point, one that is likely to be run as a "normal" part of the "infected" program. Isn't Micros~1 stuff fun? jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #3,332 by wharris2 7/31/01 10:14:45 PM Reply	Re: How far can FBI spying go? on the side, how do you make the links active like that? I put www.something.com in my posts, it lies there dead. You put www.something.com and it is a link. French Zombies are zapping me with lasers!
Post #3,335 by a6l6e6x 7/31/01 10:19:17 PM Reply	Use the source, Luke. View the page source to see how Orion does it - it's just an HTML reference. Alex This is my sig. There's another almost like it, but this one is mine.
Post #3,352 by Ashton 8/1/01 2:51:26 AM Reply	Couple nice things about EZ frills: With "[]" ya don't need the &^%@# SHIFT key all the time as with those funny angle-bracket thingies. And - links are treated as links through advanced AI recognition of a certain sequence which usually means - D'Oh! - it's a URL! (Now maybe Scott hasn't read Tom Sawyer recently so..) Sadly, Scott isn't quite ept enough to create a Zope-a-Dope "friendly EZ environment" - and we shouldn't twit him about it. Some things are just too hard, y'know. S'okay though. {sigh} Ashton No really - it's almost impossible to do; only true genii ever accomplish this.
Post #3,394 by admin 8/1/01 9:41:41 AM Reply	Heh. Appealing to my baser ego, eh, Ashton? ;-) Even genii need open schedules... Regards, -scott anderson
Post #3,511 by Ashton 8/1/01 6:17:43 PM Reply	Moi? Nahhhhh Sure - it's lo priority. Even I can manage the weirdo angle-thingies. Just lazy and all. But prolly any old URL - link shortcut would save the most wasted keystrokes / cut&paste dance (?) We hatessss the SSssssshift key My Precioussss...
Post #3,450 by orion 8/1/01 1:34:42 PM Reply	It could very well be that he doesn't seem to think that they are a priority to use EzCode type emulation in the latest Zope changes. I think he may want to get the system stable and get the more important changes out before adding any sort of EzCode emulation or URL translation. That is just my assumption. "I can see if I want anything done right around here, I'll have to do it myself!" Moe Howard
Post #3,506 by Ashton 8/1/01 5:58:44 PM Reply	There you go again. Bein r-a-t-i-o-n-a-l. But sometimes... one and one and one = don't make three. BTW: No more [pre] tags No more [pre] tags No more [pre] tags Remember why them's, Words to Live By? HTML instruction from Ashton? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa - Urp.

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