now they are going to stop me from fishing? bastrds

Post #322,609 by boxley 3/9/10 5:46:39 PM Reply	now they are going to stop me from fishing? bastrds http://sports.espn.g.../story?id=4975762 The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #322,626 by Silverlock 3/9/10 9:36:50 PM Reply	Er..., who, how, what? Like you'll stop if "they" tell you. The above subject line was sarcastic for anyone who might have missed it.
Post #322,628 by boxley 3/9/10 10:00:11 PM Reply	well it does introduce dificulties If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #322,656 by Another Scott 3/10/10 7:01:52 PM Reply	No fishing for you! If you're silly enough to believe that, you probably have no business fishing anyway. http://mediamatters....arch/201003100014 HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #322,663 by boxley 3/10/10 8:31:36 PM Reply	havnt spent much time in the fishing wars have you? the folks appointed to that panel have had an agenda for years to stop fishing everywhere they can. The fact that they shut down public debate before the affected parties cordially known in commercial fishing circles as "sports fishercunts" have a legitimate gripe. With the cheney junta we were safe, when Obama came in we thought he would be too busy, Apparently not. These are the same asswipes that used to fly in from DC during the Clinton years and packed the public meetings in Alaska so the locals couldnt be heard. Clinton was a political animal and kept them on a short leash. Apparently Obama thinks differently. If we torture the data long enough, it will confess. (Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991)
Post #322,670 by beepster 3/11/10 10:03:18 AM Reply	A lot of semantics in there. I can certainly see "better manage and limit human impact for preservation yadda yadda" work into a ban in specific locations deemed "preservation land". Was the first article a bit reactionary..absolutely...does your mediamatters page actually debunk the first in its entirety?...Not a chance. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #322,672 by Another Scott 3/11/10 10:27:25 AM Reply	The editor certainly walked it back, after the fact. http://sports.espn.g..._steve&id=4982359 Oh, and the comment period kerfluffle? The taskforce was created last June. Comments ended in February. They got at least 1844 of them ( http://www.whitehous...s/oceans/comments ). A 38 page interim report was issued in September and people could comment on that (at least 1935 comments are there - http://www.whitehous...imreport/comments ). People can still write BHO and their congress people to make their views known. It's hard to imagine that the issues haven't been raised already. I don't see how any of this somehow shows that Obama isn't going to let people fish any more or isn't listening to their views. YMMV. Cheers, Scott.
Post #322,733 by mhuber 3/11/10 10:41:18 PM Reply	Bill Clinton Lives! If that BS is "semantics" then the definition if "is" is a wide open question. But there is a bigger conspiracy against the fishing community. It started with the notorious Democrat Franklin Pierce. Since he installed it, no Democratic president has ever allowed fishing in the White House bathtub.
Post #322,878 by Andrew Grygus 3/14/10 3:31:41 PM 3/14/10 3:32:42 PM Reply	Los Angeles Times mentioned this today. They figure the birth certificate thing must be wearing out, so the wingnuts needed another fantasy based on a tiny shred of reality they could scream about to their followers. The great thing about right wingnut media is that their followers will never do any fact checking or have the slightest doubt it's the truth - because it's what they want to hear. What they want to hear is Truth, and anyone providing actual facts is "just trying to do a cover-up". Edited by Andrew Grygus March 14, 2010, 03:32:42 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #322,879 by Another Scott 3/14/10 3:53:07 PM Reply	AKA "Truthiness". Colbert nailed that mindset long ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness Cheers, Scott.
Post #322,896 by Ashton 3/14/10 10:34:31 PM Reply	PS - I did find the Shrub Roast-via-truthiness on your dongle. Had forgotten it was within your excellent assortment. Didn't know the history of Colbert's premeditated assault upon the most popular mindfuck of our day. He should receive something from the Nobel Institute, at least the Jonathan Swift Award. Thanks again for your work assembling the Compleat Angler (of Dell --> Leopard.) No telling how long some of the bare links shall remain hot. (Somewhere there shall appear one of those early Dells, forsaken for a newer candy-apple-Red model -- and then I shall be only a little late to the party.) I like that nondeliberate approach anyway, for stuff I don't really Need. A.

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