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Post #3,205 by addison 7/31/01 10:10:34 AM Reply	How would that help? I think it's high time that Sun got off its ass and open sourced Java. Why? Other than its "open source"? Last night I downloaded IBM's 1.3 JDK for Linux. (to play with LimeWire). They specified the Sun JDK. Seems to run faster on the IBM JDK, and no problems. I don't know what "open sourcing" Java would do for anybody, really. I don't think it would hurt Microsoft, and it wouldn't help Java. It might, but we're talking certainties, not perhapses. I know we're all high on using open source products, but take a look at, oh, say, Mozilla. Open Sourced. Maybe a nice browser, but how far behind? Is it ever going to catch up and pass other browsers? Maybe, but merely open sourcing Netscape didn't catapult it... I don't see that Java really has that many problems... Mainly because people who are using Java are going to keep using it, from what I've seen. Addison
Post #3,311 by imric 7/31/01 7:10:02 PM Reply	Couldn't hurt... Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Post #3,326 by ChrisR 7/31/01 9:53:25 PM Reply	I suppose one could question... ...the value of taking Java to Open Source. The first point, though, is whether MS's efforts to pollute the language are the only reason why Java is not being opened up. I think Sun is fighting the battle on old grounds to suggest that MS mutilating the language is the reason why they can't do it. Now, if Sun wants to argue there's no value in opening up Java, then let them make the case. Just stop trying to blame MS for it. MS no longer represents an internal threat to Java and the definition. It's decided to attack Java externally with no reliance on Sun technology. As for reasons of opening up Java, the library is still a shambles in many respects. Swing and the rest of the Java desktop front pretty well bites. It's time to get some more help on the massive API's that Sun has laid out on the table. And that's not to mention the possibility of using the JVM for languages other than Java - something Sun has resisted from the beginning.

Sun would let Java be Open-Source if it weren't for MSFT - (brettj) - (6) - July 31, 2001, 09:34:14 AM EDT

It that was true - (orion) - (1) - July 31, 2001, 09:45:58 AM EDT

No - (kelzer) - July 31, 2001, 05:41:13 PM EDT

Sun is being thick-headed. - (ChrisR) - (3) - July 31, 2001, 09:56:41 AM EDT

How would that help? - (addison) - (2) - July 31, 2001, 10:10:34 AM EDT

Couldn't hurt... -NT - (imric) - July 31, 2001, 07:10:02 PM EDT

I suppose one could question... - (ChrisR) - July 31, 2001, 09:53:25 PM EDT

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