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Post #319,775 by beepster 1/8/10 6:55:44 PM Reply	And this would change things how? as you say...mfg isn't important anymore and there are a boatload of salary folks that would kill to only work 40 hours. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #319,777 by Another Scott 1/8/10 7:24:52 PM Reply	RCP? I freely admit that I sometimes miss the nuance in your all-too-brief posts, but I really tried to be clear here. Since manufacturing isn't as big a part of the economy as it was, [...] =/= as you say...mfg isn't important anymore [...] As to how it would help: There are close to 20M people in the US who aren't working, or aren't working as much as they want/need. I think you'll find that there are many more, larger, boatloads of people like that than white-collar people who have to work 80 hours a week. Shifting to a 30 hour week would enable more people to be employed (to get the same [or increasing] amounts of work done). But I guess since history tells us that the 40 hour week destroyed the US economy, well then ... :-/ Cheers, Scott.
Post #319,780 by beepster 1/8/10 7:52:13 PM Reply	and it worked so well in France http://www.dissentma...icle/?article=936 that they abandoned it. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #319,783 by Another Scott 1/8/10 8:44:09 PM Reply	Hmmm. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7522659.stm (~9 months after the Dissent article): France's parliament has passed a law which effectively ends the country's compulsory 35-hour working week. The new law will allow companies to strike individual deals with unions on working hours and overtime. [...] Unions say the new measures will mainly affect smaller and medium-sized firms. "In the big companies, no-one wants to renegotiate the 35 hours and reopen Pandora's Box," said Philippe Jaeger, of managers' union CFE-CGC. It still seems to be sticking around, or at least unions have to agree to new arrangements. Maybe its an argument for increased unionization in the US? The French labor market is quite different from the US - as you well know. ;-) I'm not sure what conclusions can be drawn from their experience. One could easily argue that a 5 hour reduction in the work week wasn't enough to substantially reduce unemployment there... My $0.02, FWIW. Cheers, Scott.

How to fix the labor market. - (Another Scott) - (38) - Jan. 7, 2010, 03:30:27 PM EST

ROFL minimum wage - (boxley) - (37) - Jan. 7, 2010, 03:35:14 PM EST

Hmmm... - (Another Scott) - (16) - Jan. 7, 2010, 03:43:17 PM EST

Re: Hmmm... - (boxley) - (15) - Jan. 7, 2010, 03:53:13 PM EST

Got a linky? Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - (14) - Jan. 7, 2010, 03:54:38 PM EST

Go to McWendy Kingchicken. - (beepster) - (1) - Jan. 7, 2010, 04:06:48 PM EST

Not around here. YMMV. - (Another Scott) - Jan. 7, 2010, 04:08:48 PM EST

here ya go - (boxley) - (11) - Jan. 7, 2010, 04:10:47 PM EST

Counterpoint. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Jan. 7, 2010, 04:29:58 PM EST

you respond to the leading economic paper in the US - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 7, 2010, 05:23:37 PM EST

The WSJ's Editorial Page is as right wing as WND. - (Another Scott) - Jan. 7, 2010, 08:32:58 PM EST

here, have a graph - (boxley) - (4) - Jan. 7, 2010, 05:37:35 PM EST

Correlation is not causality. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Jan. 7, 2010, 10:09:28 PM EST

Re: Correlation is not causality. - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 7, 2010, 10:33:00 PM EST

<head against brick wall> ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 7, 2010, 10:44:33 PM EST

yeah look how many posts it took me :-) - (boxley) - Jan. 7, 2010, 11:13:49 PM EST

NJ - (beepster) - (2) - Jan. 7, 2010, 07:06:36 PM EST

Evidence, please. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 7, 2010, 08:28:18 PM EST

check the graph ^ makes my point -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 7, 2010, 08:39:33 PM EST

That's a crock - (jake123) - (17) - Jan. 7, 2010, 04:12:27 PM EST

Yup, you raise the minimum wage . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (16) - Jan. 7, 2010, 04:46:07 PM EST

The thing is, around here - (jake123) - (15) - Jan. 7, 2010, 04:49:49 PM EST

Yup. - (Another Scott) - (14) - Jan. 7, 2010, 04:56:52 PM EST

Shorter workweek is absolutely needed - (drook) - (11) - Jan. 7, 2010, 05:14:25 PM EST

Re: Shorter workweek is absolutely needed - (boxley) - (9) - Jan. 7, 2010, 05:26:22 PM EST

Companies hate it - (jay) - (8) - Jan. 8, 2010, 11:22:22 AM EST

Good points and a good idea. - (Another Scott) - (7) - Jan. 8, 2010, 11:49:53 AM EST

Don't qualify for benefits if you don't work 32 hours. -NT - (folkert) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2010, 02:37:06 PM EST

Obviously that's the big change the Govt. would have to make - (drook) - Jan. 8, 2010, 02:44:32 PM EST

And this would change things how? - (beepster) - (3) - Jan. 8, 2010, 06:55:44 PM EST

RCP? - (Another Scott) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2010, 07:24:52 PM EST

and it worked so well in France - (beepster) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2010, 07:52:13 PM EST

Hmmm. - (Another Scott) - Jan. 8, 2010, 08:44:09 PM EST

Re: Good points and a good idea. - (jay) - Jan. 9, 2010, 12:54:54 PM EST

maybe a better idea - (boxley) - Jan. 7, 2010, 11:16:45 PM EST

Re: Yup. - (beepster) - (1) - Jan. 7, 2010, 07:10:49 PM EST

I remember it differently. - (Another Scott) - Jan. 7, 2010, 08:22:14 PM EST

Re: ROFL minimum wage - (lincoln) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2010, 10:27:46 AM EST

Well.. - (beepster) - Jan. 8, 2010, 11:23:37 AM EST

My, we are a grumpy bastard.
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