Post #317,479
11/18/09 6:42:24 PM
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Eh?
http://tpmdc.talking...ty-is-applied.php
"What I said was, people will not be offended if that's the outcome. I'm not prejudging it, I'm not going to be in that courtroom. That's the job of the prosecutors, the judge and the jury," Obama said.
Also, given that KSM has already talked in detail about his guilt of the charges against him, bragged about it, and welcomed "martyrdom", Obama's statements to Todd were hardly controversial and will have zero impact on a jury. http://www.timesonli...rticle4076206.ece
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #317,480
11/18/09 6:53:27 PM
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so will sheik hold up a headline "Obama sez Im guilty"
then motion for a mistrial and a tainted jury pool?
Like Nixon he should have kept his mouth shut.
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Post #317,484
11/18/09 7:16:27 PM
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I guess we'll see. I'm not worried that he'll be acquitted.
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Post #317,488
11/18/09 8:24:49 PM
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What you should be worried about...
...is the fact that there will be news crews from every news outlet on the globe, all in one spot, all focussed on one thing, all back in NYC.
Wonder if they'll paint a bullseye on the building?
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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Post #317,491
11/18/09 9:14:52 PM
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I was down the street from the Moussaoui trial...
http://www.vaed.usco...ssaoui/index.html
When did conservatives become such fraidy cats? :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
(Who thinks that this is all just stuff to get the Republican "base" more riled up at Obama.)
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Post #317,500
11/18/09 10:16:33 PM
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Huh?
When did taking unnecessary risk become so flippant a gesture.
1) KSM is a different beast, if any of what has been said is true.
2) The fact that Lindsay Graham could "stump the band" about how this precedent would work in the future re: enemies caught in field of batter etc....lets see how that slope slides...
I don't really care if you give him a microphone and a 50000 watt tower of power to talk until we don't have to apply the death penalty...(seems to be the popular talking point...giving him a forum)...
There is no need to bring them here. None. Take the court to them.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
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Post #317,502
11/18/09 10:47:34 PM
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Fundamental disagreement.
KSM isn't so scary that the federal courts can't handle him. There is no reason why he cannot be tried here. If you look through what was done with the Moussaoui trial, you'll see that it wasn't a circus.
Moussaoui was tried in federal court here.
McVeigh was tried here.
Four of the US Embassy bombers were tried here - http://edition.cnn.c...embassy.bombings/
etc.
The best protection we have against terrorism is living up to our ideals and following our laws, not being afraid to put people on trial because they're "too dangerous". Following the law is not "taking unnecessary risk".
For someone who worries about the "slippery slope" in other contexts, you seem to be willing to ride the Slip&Slide regarding the "field of battle". IMO, if the term applies to Rawalpindi, then it applies to Orlando...
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #317,512
11/19/09 9:29:22 AM
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with nother on this one
the only caveat I have is that the law must be applied well, which may lead to an aquital unless the feds have some untainted evidence up their sleeve. We should never have taken these people into US custody to begin with, should have killed them in the field after having friends debrief them first
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Post #317,497
11/18/09 10:10:41 PM
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A Military trial... for multiple murders, ending in...
acquittal?
Never happen. If they don't get him on the first murder, they will on the second or third... or which ever and then look at them overall and give him the absolute minimum of Hard Labor for the rest of his life.
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Post #317,499
11/18/09 10:15:45 PM
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KSM's trial will be in federal court - not under UCMJ.
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Post #317,507
11/19/09 6:34:28 AM
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Ah fudge...
Guess I need to re-read things...
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