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New Hypocrisy comes in 'scales' and has 'relativity' too..
(Possibly 'hypocrisy' isn't the right word though, when we reach the scale of massively-shared illusion?)

I'll agree with your placing of second-hand smoke VS the Larger, ongoing problem to which (most-) all are inured. But it is moot: it's unThinkable to most Muricans to even imagine! winding-down their utter God-reverence for Very Expensive Personal Wheels. Not even with a free / magic overnight / instant creation of the most modern public transport. Not even when the cost of maintaining subsidized-lo gas prices is: becoming an Imperial Power - taking what we want from the less-armed; using 25% of the world's supply of lots of stuff.

I believe this started as freedom from the oppression of one's family, neighbor group, especially in small towns. Early-on it was realized that Sex could only become more possible (in Really Puritan times) via the privacy afforded, too - with or without the drive-in movie.

Clearly there are many +s; but it took decades for the -s to rear their ugly confounding heads. By then the fad had modified the genetic structure of homo-Muricanus-Disneyensis. By now: for too many homogenized souls, The Car encapsulates Everything! (the more so.. the younger the car-besotted one).

It proclaims status, for certain tawdry definitions. Its appearance -- so utterly impractical of maintenance in a land of narrow parking spaces -- Must be maintained on a level with jewelry: an industry in itself. Just look at the impractical shapes, from any repair standpoint. And with Ronnie's reduction to the 2\ufffd MPH bumper as Corporate sop - windfall! for the panel beaters. And Corp spare parts. (My '77 Saab has 5 mph bumpers that ARE "5 mph". 5 mph-PLUS - one was tested!). But that's just a tiny aspect.

The spin-off in parasitic industries has become such that: any effort towards deemphasis would be deemed as blasphemous as to say, Were Jesus alive today - he would not want to be a Christian, all things considered.. Many many! jobs are intertwined with this addiction - which makes nicotine seem almost benign.

No, I think we'd take the hit from the asteroid rather than give up Car Worship. It is perfectly irrational (like the other example), thus perfectly impervious to logical - let alone reasonable argument, in the mass.

{sigh} Seems that species-wide we are averse to studying history and avoiding repetition of earlier follies / and also not much oriented towards any planning beyond the next quarter (bizness being both cause and effect of the junk-DNA within?).

ie We Serve The Car, now.. not vice versa. Best accept our profligacy and also our overall suicidal nature. (After all, it's just an illusion - this maya, you know? ;-)



Ashton
Blessed are those who expect noth-

PS Especially - do not expect the Corps [oil] to go gently into that Good night.. wherein alternatives to [oil] petroleum reside; speaking of expecting..
New Re: Hypocrisy comes in 'scales' and has 'relativity' too..
Ashton, if I could get from my home to work and back, with only, say, two or three times the elapsed time it takes me to travel by car (automobile takes 10-15 minutes, let's say a 45 minute public transport commute), I'd do it.

If there were public transportation that hooked up reasonably close to my house, transporting me to reasonably priced Amtrack (or other train travel) to my parents' house, I'd probably visit them more than once or twice a year.

The trouble is, the U.S. has built itself up into a corner these past five decades or so. The public transportation available sucks and blows, it's easier to use the Interstate to drive my ten or fifteen miles to work than to endure the stupid routes a bus might take (and those buses emite fragrant clouds of particulates, much more than my car anyway.) And thus it's a self-fulfilling machine: you drive, therefore they don't set up more convenient routes, and therefore you drive.
Where each demon is slain, more hate is raised, yet hate unchecked also multiplies. - L. E. Modesitt
New No argument there..
I don't know how much company you have, but I don't think it's insignificant - either. But as you say - we have burned the options along the way to now being wholly dependent upon steams of single-driver commuters. And they can't relax or read, for sometimes several hours a day. Just follow the car ahead. Wearing, to say the least.

BTW though, if.. we found some way to recapture what was simply abandoned - and modernized it too - those particulates would be a lot less/person than all those cars in an endless row, idling.

We may have to get back somehow. It's just not working, this way. (Note how smug are the looks on those who can commute in decent time).

It'll be tough.


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     Oh my gawd! I'm shocked... - (screamer) - (37)
         Uh... How, exactly, do you reckon you're "vindicated" here?? - (CRConrad) - (29)
             In our last, um, er, "discussion"... - (screamer) - (28)
                 Read the article again - (wharris2) - (8)
                     On plain bullshit... - (screamer) - (7)
                         The BS is yours; you're missing a fundamental point. - (CRConrad) - (6)
                             Dunno how it works in Finland - (boxley) - (2)
                                 Works exactly the same here. Unfortunately... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                     Don't we wish - (drewk)
                             The one on your head? - (screamer) - (2)
                                 No, the one that swished past above yours. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                     was the swish in yer title intentional? - (boxley)
                 "We must ban combustion engines before smoking"? Only if... - (CRConrad) - (18)
                     Ever live in a city? - (screamer) - (17)
                         Don't think you need to look for figures; they're so obvious - (CRConrad) - (16)
                             Need a unit conversion - (drewk) - (15)
                                 Nope; hours / minutes / seconds is the same here as there. - (CRConrad) - (14)
                                     Yo... Sir majesty... - (screamer) - (13)
                                         Kneel when thou talkest to me, peasant! - (CRConrad) - (12)
                                             Dang, it's like IRC or something... You've been - (screamer) - (11)
                                                 Gimme socially responsible, tasty, juicy chewing terbacky... - (CRConrad) - (10)
                                                     I'm adding to my list... - (screamer) - (9)
                                                         Now you're so bogus it's just boring. - (CRConrad) - (8)
                                                             Hope you're not too bored... - (screamer) - (7)
                                                                 Hypocrisy comes in 'scales' and has 'relativity' too.. - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                     Re: Hypocrisy comes in 'scales' and has 'relativity' too.. - (wharris2) - (1)
                                                                         No argument there.. - (Ashton)
                                                                 OK, so you think it's better if I get *annoyed*, in stead? - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                     Does it even matter if it is carcenogenic? - (wharris2) - (2)
                                                                         Foolish attempt at some sort of summary (?) - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                             Nah, just right-shifting the monomania a bit :=) -NT - (wharris2)
         Nah, this only means... - (bepatient) - (1)
             About the lack of warning signs on the GW... - (screamer)
         Not to worry, Dan - (Ashton) - (2)
             Not to mean to join threads but after the boom - (screamer) - (1)
                 ..barada Nikkto - (Ashton)
         get that chicken leg outta my face! - (boxley) - (1)
             Chortle.. - (Ashton)

This is also known as CIA-assisted self-determination.
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