The one on your head?

Post #31,659 by screamer 3/11/02 1:40:45 PM Reply	The one on your head? The point? You claim some sort of societal "good" is coming from screwing up "my God given RIGHT to exhaust emition free air"? Who the flying fuck are you to decide that it's more important for some second hand car smoker to drive 30 miles each way to work? You best add "short term good" to your ridiculous "point". S/He's poisoning the air for future generations and continuing to open up a big ol' friggin hole in the ozone layer - something tobacco smoke doesn't do... just so he go to the (polluting auto plant) to make more cars... By the way, the tobacco "industry" provides jobs. By the way, smoking calms people, wakes them up and does a lot of other "nice" chemical things to the body of the smoker which is why they smoke... Using your kind of logic (non accomodation of people who don't think like you should be regulated because you are in a repressive minority) might lead us down a wonderful path of "rights" like - compulsory plastic surgery for all the ugly mofo's that I "have a right not to see", telling all the damned handicapped people to learn to friggin walk and quit messing up the aesthetics of architecture by putting those damned ramps everywhere, banning any food that makes people fat (and I should be able to knock them outta my way - 'cause they bother me - see the compulsory plastic surgery right) 'cause they are running up my health care costs (and compulsory abortion for anyone with known genetic defects/propensities wishing to parent a child), and I don't like people who drink - they are running up my health care tab as well, and like tobacco, serves no real societal good... Are we having fun yet? Nietsche reference is in Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life"... Watch it and get back to me. Just a few thoughts, Screamer "I'll tip my hat to the new constitution, take a bow for the new revolution, smile and grin at the change all around, pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday..." P. Townshend "Nietzsche has an S in it" Celina Jones
Post #31,666 by CRConrad 3/11/02 2:17:26 PM Reply	No, the one that swished past above yours. Dan Reck'lessly storms You claim some sort of societal "good" is coming from screwing up "my God given RIGHT to exhaust emition free air"? Who the flying fuck are you to decide that it's more important for some second hand car smoker to drive 30 miles each way to work? Not I, but Helsinki and Finland as a whole. Not you, but Cincinnatti, Ohio, and (above all!) the U.S. of A. as a whole. If society as a whole didn't see some overriding societal value in enabling people to travel in cars, then they'd close off city centers and build electric tramways, right? (And electric trains for long-distance travel.) But you and I, and all the other Helsinkians and Finns and Ohioans and Americans, keep voting in people who allocate funds to city streets and traffic lights (and interstate highways), so obviously it is our collective will (with you, and in many areas me, as dissenters from the majority) that this be the way it shall be. You best add "short term good" to your ridiculous "point". S/He's poisoning the air for future generations and continuing to open up a big ol' friggin hole in the ozone layer - something tobacco smoke doesn't do... just so he go to the (polluting auto plant) to make more cars... Sure, I never said it was the most enlightened thing to do... But at least "we", society as a whole, get some use out of (many of) those car rides and lorry ("truck") transports -- which still is a fuckofalot better than you smoking at me, which neither of us gets ANY benefit, and I only bother, from. By the way, the tobacco "industry" provides jobs. By the way, smoking calms people, wakes them up and does a lot of other "nice" chemical things to the body of the smoker which is why they smoke... Eat some peppers and a carrot, take a two-mile jog, and then whack off in the shower -- you'll have the same effects, only without bothering me. Or, fuck, take your morning fag at home -- or in your car, for all I care! -- just as long as you don't traipse in at our common place of work, and then start huffing and puffing your stinking smoke, in my face. You can whine and rant 'til you're blue in the face, and you'll still never convince me you should have any "right" to do that. Because YOU JUST _D_O_ _N_O_T_. Using your kind of logic (non accomodation of people who don't think like you should be regulated because you are in a repressive minority) might lead us down a wonderful path [...] FWIW, the curse of a democracy (or, as in your case, a capitalist oligarchy masquerading as a republic) is "the tyranny of the majority", not a minority. Are we having fun yet? Naah, sorry, not all that much, really. Nietsche reference is in Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life"... Watch it and get back to me. Uhh... I have actually seen that, even though it was a long time ago now... But surely, even they don't spell him "NietzSche", with a capital 'S'?!? Thas'sall I meant, really... Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #31,673 by boxley 3/11/02 3:09:48 PM Reply	was the swish in yer title intentional? Or, fuck, take your morning fag at home -- or in your car, for all I care! But when little rickee arrives what do I tell my wife? Think id rather smoke. American, the other English thanks, bill There is no difference between a "settler," "soldier," "secular," or "Chassidic Jew." The target is the JEW. - Harvey Tannenbaum

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