idle question, do you think a government tard

Post #312,366 by boxley 8/10/09 11:19:31 AM Reply	idle question, do you think a government tard is really gonna fix all of that? Government tart is probably going to be a laid off insurance tard who is hired because of their previous experience.
Post #312,368 by beepster 8/10/09 11:27:20 AM Reply	And these are simply anecdotal evidence of how horrible our system is...and the fact that all of seemingly unrelated stories are showing up everywhere all saying how evil our insurance industry is (in the face of being eliminated by the government..oh sorry...by being allowed to "compete with a public option") is all just coinkeedink. I want to know one thing, will Congress, Executive and all branches of fed government be required to move to the public option healthcare they are creating. If the answer is no, then you should simply ask "why". I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #312,370 by jake123 8/10/09 11:29:37 AM Reply	I agree completely and fwiw, that's the situation extant in Canada.
Post #312,372 by Another Scott 8/10/09 11:37:11 AM Reply	Lookup FEHB. While things are still nebulous, I believe what Obama wants is something like the FEHB. http://www.opm.gov/I.../HEALTH/INDEX.ASP The Federal Employees Health Benefits (FEHB) Program can help you and your family meet your health care needs. Federal employees, retirees and their survivors enjoy the widest selection of health plans in the country. You can choose from among Consumer-Driven and High Deductible plans that offer catastrophic risk protection with higher deductibles, health savings/reimbursable accounts and lower premiums, or Fee-for-Service (FFS) plans, and their Preferred Provider Organizations (PPO), or Health Maintenance Organizations (HMO) if you live (or sometimes if you work) within the area serviced by the plan. OMG! It's the 7th Seal of the Apocalypse! Cheers, Scott.
Post #312,374 by boxley 8/10/09 11:41:20 AM Reply	then why doesnt obama get off his ass and trundle over to the congress and tell THEM what he wants. It appears that democrats are complaining that they dont KNOW what he wants an he needs to do that leadership thingy
Post #312,377 by Another Scott 8/10/09 12:11:03 PM Reply	He's been clear about what he wants. http://www.whitehous...sues/health_care/ HTH. ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #312,381 by boxley 8/10/09 1:09:08 PM Reply	you better send that link to feinstein then http://patdollard.co...ering-with-video/ Other Democrats complain that by not providing enough clarity on where the health-care overhaul is headed, the White House has left them exposed politically as they face constituentsÂ scrutiny Â and rivalsÂ attacks Â during the August recess. ÂSpecificity is what is needed,Â said Sen. Dianne Feinstein. ÂWhatÂs most helpful now is: ÂThis will reduce costs, and here is precisely how.Â Â Asked if the White House had provided this specificity, the California Democrat said, ÂNo.Â oh, she said specifics, never mind :-)
Post #312,373 by boxley 8/10/09 11:39:47 AM Reply	and also amusing as I have related personal issues showing the true face of government run health care via the Indian Health Service that are shrugged off as anomalies that will not happen to white folk government health care :-)
Post #312,376 by Another Scott 8/10/09 12:09:54 PM Reply	The people pushing the paper don't write the rules. The problem is the system, not the people who collect the forms and forward them on to people up the chain. Congress and Obama are working on fixing the system. HTH. ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #312,485 by dmcarls 8/13/09 3:26:02 PM Reply	The Atlantic checks in on this topic.... How American Health Care Killed My Father http://www.theatlant...00909/health-care
Post #312,487 by boxley 8/13/09 3:29:50 PM Reply	yeah, it surprises me that docs and others dont wash their hands properly. Sanitation in a lot of hospitals in canada are bad as well. The IHS unit in Nevada was really bad.
Post #312,488 by Andrew Grygus 8/13/09 3:59:06 PM Reply	My father was killed by do-gooders. The do-gooders had just published a big list of the survival rates from heart surgery at all the hospitals in the region - so people could make "informed decisions". The result was, nobody would take on a high risk heart surgery for fear it would affect their numbers on the next report.

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