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Post #310,768
by beepster
7/10/09 4:52:38 PM
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New because they expect it to be profitable
which it will never be, which is why gov has to build it. (which even the libby in me understands)
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Post #310,770
by drook
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7/10/09 5:10:13 PM
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New True, unlike roads
There was that recent story about Michigan un-paving some rural roads, turning them back into gravel because they couldn't afford to maintain them. There's got to be a way to use that to influence people.

Stop pouring millions of dollars into extending freeways farther and farther into rural areas, enabling people to move farther out. Increase gasoline taxes to reflect the true cost of maintaining that infrastructure. Maybe if people had to bear the full cost they would choose to live closer to the city. And with increased population density the financials for light rail start to make more sense.

(Yes, this is pretty much Kunstler's main thesis of the last few years.)
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Drew
Post #310,787
by static
7/11/09 7:12:00 AM
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New Governments don't understand public transport.
Almost without fail, they seem to expect public transport systems, especially train systems, to make money hand over fist. But usually they don't, particularly in the sort of urban density most of the western world live in. :-)

Wade.
Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers?
A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
     nice health bill - (boxley) - (34) - July 9, 2009, 12:40:24 PM EDT
         We need the stimulus...doncha know. -NT - (beepster) - (33) - July 9, 2009, 01:10:07 PM EDT
             No, that was so last week. - (hnick) - (32) - July 9, 2009, 01:59:59 PM EDT
                 well ATL is already full of zombies and vampires - (boxley) - July 9, 2009, 02:07:07 PM EDT
                 What... - (beepster) - (30) - July 9, 2009, 04:22:01 PM EDT
                     Glimmel... - (hnick) - July 9, 2009, 09:09:03 PM EDT
                     "War...builds things that have a real value" - (mhuber) - (28) - July 10, 2009, 09:30:38 AM EDT
                         can we start with mine? - (boxley) - (21) - July 10, 2009, 09:35:17 AM EDT
                             Yes, but a huge amount of money . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - July 10, 2009, 10:04:18 AM EDT
                             What were you making? - (mhuber) - (19) - July 10, 2009, 09:38:13 PM EDT
                                 Trickle down? - (beepster) - (18) - July 11, 2009, 12:47:08 AM EDT
                                     Yup, not so hard to figure out. - (Another Scott) - (17) - July 11, 2009, 07:08:53 AM EDT
                                         Re: Yup, not so hard to figure out. - (boxley) - July 11, 2009, 07:44:40 AM EDT
                                         Nothing stated in there creates a job - (beepster) - (15) - July 11, 2009, 07:38:44 PM EDT
                                             Categorical statements are (almost) always wrong. - (Another Scott) - (14) - July 11, 2009, 08:30:29 PM EDT
                                                 Wow. - (beepster) - (13) - July 11, 2009, 08:48:54 PM EDT
                                                     Hardly. - (Another Scott) - (12) - July 11, 2009, 09:05:50 PM EDT
                                                         What I see - (beepster) - (11) - July 11, 2009, 09:44:07 PM EDT
                                                             Who is "them"? - (Another Scott) - (10) - July 11, 2009, 10:35:07 PM EDT
                                                                 Ok, fine - (beepster) - (2) - July 11, 2009, 11:30:44 PM EDT
                                                                     Beep! - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 12, 2009, 12:03:28 AM EDT
                                                                         Sometimes it seems like it - (beepster) - July 12, 2009, 12:23:55 AM EDT
                                                                 yeah, invest in medical records, sure you betcha - (boxley) - (6) - July 12, 2009, 12:57:49 PM EDT
                                                                     Anyone can file a lawsuit. Film at 11:00. - (Another Scott) - (5) - July 12, 2009, 03:57:25 PM EDT
                                                                         2,3,4 and 10 are where the argument lies -NT - (boxley) - (4) - July 12, 2009, 06:56:26 PM EDT
                                                                             How can having better records give poorer results? - (Another Scott) - (2) - July 12, 2009, 07:30:00 PM EDT
                                                                                 bingo on the last sentence - (boxley) - (1) - July 13, 2009, 08:23:42 AM EDT
                                                                                     We'll see. No doubt that there should be strong oversight. -NT - (Another Scott) - July 13, 2009, 10:10:35 AM EDT
                                                                             Did you miss the Obama quip (borrowed from Newt) on records? - (a6l6e6x) - July 12, 2009, 08:19:57 PM EDT
                         Think, man - (beepster) - (5) - July 10, 2009, 10:21:47 AM EDT
                             I agree 100% - (jake123) - July 10, 2009, 02:33:13 PM EDT
                             Forget high-speed, how about *commuter* rail - (drook) - (3) - July 10, 2009, 04:16:02 PM EDT
                                 because they expect it to be profitable - (beepster) - (2) - July 10, 2009, 04:52:38 PM EDT
                                     True, unlike roads - (drook) - (1) - July 10, 2009, 05:10:13 PM EDT
                                         Governments don't understand public transport. - (static) - July 11, 2009, 07:12:00 AM EDT

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