Uphill battle either way.

Post #30,265 by static 2/28/02 10:03:20 PM Reply	Uphill battle either way. It might be a doddle to put it into IE and IIS, but they can't take HTTP out of IE because then it wouldn't talk to the vast majority HTTP servers that are not IIS. Taking HTTP out of IIS would be nearly as pointless. First, it would give non-IIS users one more reason to not use it. Secondly, it would give existing IIS users a whole new set of headaches. Now, being Microsoft, they will probably not take HTTP out of IIS (or IE) but add all sorts of bells and whistles to this new protocol to do things they either can't do or can't be bothered doing via HTTP. Non-IE users on IIS sites will be requested to use IE for the "full-experience", which they probably won't do en-masse. But Microsoft will have a huge PR battle because it will be obvious they're using their IE-near-monopoly to try to co-opt HTTP... Wade. P.S. Firewalls will need to know how to let it this new protocol through. :-) "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #30,298 by drewk 3/1/02 8:41:03 AM Reply	That's basically the idea Now, being Microsoft, they will probably not take HTTP out of IIS (or IE) but add all sorts of bells and whistles to this new protocol to do things they either can't do or can't be bothered doing via HTTP. Right. Think Kerberos. Okay that one seems to have since become moot, but add the DMCA and -- if/when it passes -- the SSSCA and the tweaks they add to HTTP "for security"[1] will be legally unavoidable. [1] It would be too obvious to point out that there already is a more secure protocol, called (surprisingly) HTTPS, and that any changes Microsoft might make to HTTP should then be called HTTPMS, but that's just a marketing issue. I can't be a Democrat because I like to spend the money I make. I can't be a Republican because I like to spend the money I make on drugs and whores.
Post #30,375 by nking 3/1/02 4:18:07 PM Reply	It just sounds stupid They only thing that TCP/IP needs is that IPV6 standard so that every Coke Machine has an IP address and people can assign IP addresses to their Digital Toaster and other consumer devices. :) Otherwise I don't really see a need for a replacement for TCP/IP? Is Microsoft going to bring back NetBeui? Or will it be a Mutant version of TCP/IP named MS-TCP/IP? HTTP is just plain fine, don't fuck with it. If you don't like it, there is always [link\|http;//www.freenet.org\|FreeNet]! "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."*

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