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New The vast oversimplification
Consumption generates all revenue to corporations and government siphons from this for its "revenue". Reducing corp profits nets lower tax revenue from corp side that will be made up elsewhere (read consumers). It may not impact the price of the specific good in the short term and thus appear that its not being passed on...but you need to go back to premise 1...it all starts with consumption, which all starts with the consumer...which all starts with you or I.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New That's a pretty broad definition of "consumption", isn't it?
Providing a service is satisfying a "consumption"? I've not heard the term used that way. Be that as it may...

Consumption generates all revenue to corporations and government siphons from this for its "revenue".


Government provides a variety of services to corporations related to:

1) Security (police, fire)
2) A legal system and a framework of laws (courts, access to them, rules, property rights)
3) Utilities (though publicly-granted monopolies to water, electricity, gas)
4) Roads and a transportation system
5) An educated workforce
6) Etc.

Why should a corporation not pay something for these services that are made possible by government - the things that make a modern corporation possible? Bill Gates and Henry Ford didn't create the world in 7 days.

Reducing corp profits nets lower tax revenue from corp side that will be made up elsewhere (read consumers).


As mentioned above, corporate income taxes are based on profits which are defined as (revenue - expenses). So the case can be made that taxes on profits can't increase expenses (since it's a separate category that's already counted). So, taxing profits won't reduce corporate profits, will it?

Cheers,
Scott.
New Depends where the tax is applied.
And a tax on profits decreases net profit, not gross. A change in income/profit tax will take longer to work through the system..but will eventually end up in price. So the short term discussion will be in your favor, they won't immediately raise prices to counter.

There's no reason why govt shouldn't expect corporations to pay for services...but they pay for them with customer money. Companies don't make money, they make goods and services that people or other companies pay for. I'm not a proponent of eliminating corp income taxes as some are. I do think they can and should be lowered to improve the value equation of domestic investment.



I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Expand Edited by beepster Dec. 6, 2008, 05:31:57 AM EST
     Interesting article on Angry Bear about the "companies pass - (jake123) - (14)
         The theory is simple - (jay)
         apparently doesnt understand a balance sheet - (boxley) - (12)
             Hey! Stop bringing up reality . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             Ahh, but you don't take account how much margin is there - (crazy) - (7)
                 correct, except a lot of people miss the point - (boxley)
                 Bullpucky - (beepster) - (5)
                     We're all dead in the end. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                         read my post on the balance sheet - (boxley)
                         The vast oversimplification - (beepster) - (2)
                             That's a pretty broad definition of "consumption", isn't it? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Depends where the tax is applied. - (beepster)
             That's far too idealistic. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 thats a fact jack - (boxley) - (1)
                     Oh, to live in such a simple world - (crazy)

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