>> BTW, from my limited experience with the Java Lobby, they're a pretty reasonable group. <<

Not! When the discussion area about my anti-OO website grew too popular, they *suddenly* removed it from the top of the "hot topics" list into obvlivion. It was at #2 one hour, and then gone from the list the next, despite many fresh posts.

Of course that may just reflect the owners' 3rd-world idiocracy and not the participants.