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New Half right on A-10
"Now, look at the problems that new procurement takes. Political opposition. Opposition from other branches (The A-10, prior to its shining example in Desert Storm, was facing opposition from internal to the Air Force, since it wasn't fast and shiny and didn't kill planes, AND the Army, because, By God, its not the Air Force's job to kill tanks)."

The Air Force doesn't want them because their mission isn't to shoot down other planes, it's (horrors!) to kill things on the ground (icky, ptooey). The Army LOVES them. In fact, every time the Air Force tried to retire them, the Army said fine, give them to us; we'll field them. Oh, and also give us the budget for them.

Well, that goes completely against the rules of empire building. So, the Air Force keeps planes they HATE, and the Army keeps getting less than optimal ground support from the Air Force.

There's more involved (agreement or law? limiting Army fixed wing aircraft to 10000 pounds), but that's the gist.

Brian Bronson
New Yeah, that's part of the problem.
Course, I'm sure the TROOPS love the A-10, they don't care WHO shoots the other tanks.

Its the Brass behind the scenes that worries about this shit.

There's more involved (agreement or law? limiting Army fixed wing aircraft to 10000 pounds), but that's the gist.

Yeah, there's something about that, When the AAC split off to the Air Force, they had an agreement of some kind that the Army (to prevent them from building another AAC) wouldn't have the sort of planes that the AF had.

Which is why the Army wants SuperCopters (which is all theirs, and they can do whatever they like), rather than begging support from the Air Force.

Addison
     Efficiency, Profit, Pork, and Economy. (long 'n rambling) - (inthane-chan) - (18)
         Re: Efficiency, Profit, Pork, and Economy. (long 'n rambling - (addison) - (14)
             Re: Efficiency, Profit, Pork, and Economy. (long 'n rambling - (inthane-chan) - (12)
                 One small point, which may be all you need - (drewk) - (10)
                     That is one of the puzzle pieces. - (inthane-chan) - (9)
                         Not sure how serious you are - (drewk)
                         Its not a bad pondering. - (addison)
                         (something I forgot) - (addison) - (6)
                             Whoops. - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                                 Its a military mindset. - (addison) - (4)
                                     Details about the chopper loading and Osprey problems - (drewk) - (1)
                                         Osprey problems - (addison)
                                     Half right on A-10 - (bbronson) - (1)
                                         Yeah, that's part of the problem. - (addison)
                 Re: Re: Efficiency, Profit, Pork, and Economy. (long 'n ramb - (addison)
             Everyone But You - (deSitter)
         Moral / legal - (JayMehaffey)
         cant resist - (boxley)
         OT: Why is this marked as new? - (drewk)

Well, the place was crowded. We were packed in like sardines. They were all there to listen to the Big Band sounds of Tommy Dorsal. What sole! Tommy was rocking the place with a very popular tuna: "Sal-mon Chanted Evening," and the stage was surrounded by screaming groupers; probably there to see the bass player.
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