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New I've seen bad guys lose in real life.
And not just those icky Taliban on the teevee.

I once had an abusive boss who was a cofounder of the company. He pissed so many people off that he got outvoted on the board, and was forced to um, "take a less active role in the day-to-day operations of the company."

I once got a sleazy lying client rep fired by refusing to cover for him.
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Truth is that which is the case. Accept no substitutes.
New very rarely, if at all, do they lose.
But answer me this, what is that ex-client rep doing now? Maybe be working as a manager in a different company and doing the same stuff over again?

Whatever becomes of those grade school and high school bullies? You graduate with them, but lose track of them. They usually get jobs where they have a bit of power or can abuse people at will. Police officers, managers, supervisors, client reps, etc.

So what if they lose one battle or two, they still win the war and get a different job someplace else.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New That isn't my experience
I have known my share of nice and nasty people.

Many of the nasty ones of my aquaintance have wound up in the end turning their lives into nasty hell-holes. Many of the nice ones have wound up with decent ones. Exceptions abound both ways of course. But I have never met someone who was both nasty and honestly satisfied with how their life had turned out. I have met nice ones who could say "I have no real regrets" and mean it.

Note that satisfaction and external success are orthogonal goals. Of the various people I have known who have achieved extremes of cultural success, not one has been able to get any real satisfaction from the accomplishment. That holds for both the nice and mean ones, albeit for different reasons.

Stop focussing on how you have been done wrong to. Stop talking about how many mean and nasty people there are. Start thinking long and hard about what matters to you, and how you are going to get it. Every time I wind up doing that I wind up telling my wife that I love her. YMMV (all things considered, I hope it does, after all you have your own!), but unless you focus on getting the basics right, nothing will really help.

Cheers,
Ben
New Mean people s*ck!
I've know a lot of mean people that love their jobs and their life. From the HR lady who smiles when she tells someone they have to leave the company, to the security guard that smiles when escourting them out, to the bouncers who work in bars and movie theatres and love to throw people out, to Police Officers who love to give out tickets and bash someone in the head when they resist arrest or not, to the politicians who love to get into office and start screwing around with people's rights in the laws they try to pass. Mean people s*ck, but from what I have seen, they love being mean.

Right now not a lot matters to me. My will to live has been sucked out of me. My confidence is shot. I have lost faith and hope. All I look forward to is the day when I die and all of this is over for me. But death never comes for me when I need to die, and thus I am allowed to keep living and suffering. This makes me a hard person to kill.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New I would bet that you know none of them well
To be sure, many mean people enjoy being mean.

That doesn't stop them from disliking dealing with the kind of people who are willing to be friends with them despite their being the kind of people they are. That doesn't make them feel better when they get in a fight at home.

While it doesn't always work out very fairly in the end, it does frequently enough that it is rather stupid in the end to be a mean person.

Cheers,
Ben
New One day they will go home
and get confused and kiss the dog and kick their spouse?

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
     Feeling suicidal again - (nking) - (17)
         I don't have all the answers - (Meerkat)
         There are times I've felt that way - (wharris2)
         Life will never be completely fair... - (marlowe) - (1)
             Majorily unfair and in the favor of evil people. - (nking)
         Go to any hospital emergency room - (tuberculosis) - (2)
             Tried it before - (nking) - (1)
                 you are better off than before - (boxley)
         Yeah, the bad guys get what they want. - (mhuber) - (9)
             Bad guys always win in real life - (nking) - (8)
                 Not always - (bbronson)
                 Re: Socrates: not that simple - (Steve Lowe)
                 I've seen bad guys lose in real life. - (marlowe) - (5)
                     very rarely, if at all, do they lose. - (nking) - (4)
                         That isn't my experience - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             Mean people s*ck! - (nking) - (2)
                                 I would bet that you know none of them well - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                     One day they will go home - (nking)

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