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Post #293,407
by bepatient
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9/22/07 11:54:44 AM
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New No I'm not
I have no problems with the printing of the ad. They can do that all they want. It is a free country. Its their money.

Its the reaction (or lack thereof)by the candidates that aspire to be CIC and the impression that that reaction should leave on 1)the people that will be in their charge and 2) the people that will do the voting.

Yes, this is alot of media crap about a legal act by an org that skirts the campaign finance laws. What I see this as is another Democratic candidate making it EASY on the opposition to leave a bad impression in the mouths of the voters. Here we go, self destructing again. If you >really< want to get Republicans out of office then you really DON'T want help like this.

Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #293,420
by Seamus
9/22/07 12:48:49 PM
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New But you also said that
Sen. Clinton couldn't be bother to vote, was on the fence. But, she did vote for the democratic version of the censure, just not the republican version.

You also said the repo spin machine had it right. If they had it right they would have said that they vehemently disagree with the message, but they and the military defend the right of group's like moveon.org to make those statements.

It was a gamble on the part of moveon.org to go with the ad. I am not sure if it is going to hurt the democrats more than help them.
Seamus
Post #293,422
by bepatient
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9/22/07 1:03:40 PM
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New What I'd seen
was that she did not vote on the Boxer and voted NO on the other.

[link|http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00343|That appears to be incorrect]. In which case all she needs to do to get rid of this, and I'm sure she will, is to say she voted yes to the Boxer resolution.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #293,424
by Seamus
9/22/07 1:31:20 PM
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New Just curious, where did you see that?
Seamus
Post #293,425
by bepatient
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9/22/07 1:47:10 PM
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New Gonna have to get my laptop back
from my daughter and check the history. I was trying to stay with fairly reputable sites. The one I saw the most conflicting reports on was Obama.

Ah well. It was fun anyway.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #293,474
by Simon_Jester
9/23/07 12:31:40 PM
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New Are you KIDDING me?
In which case all she needs to do to get rid of this, and I'm sure she will, is to say she voted yes to the Boxer resolution.


We've got an ENTIRE thread here because someone stated "Clinton stood silently by when MoveOn.org ran this venomous ad in the New York Times"....(3 guess who that person was). You think anyone is going to point out the entire thing was a lie? (I'm sure FOX news will jump on it any time now).
Post #293,480
by bepatient
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9/23/07 4:20:49 PM
9/23/07 4:21:36 PM
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New She hasn't yet.
and I wouldn't put faith in the party machine to get it right. They haven't done too well the past couple of tries.

Post edit...my 2 main sources of online news are cnn and msnbc.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Expand Edited by bepatient Sept. 23, 2007, 04:21:36 PM EDT
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     Just for Beep: Achenblog on the attacks on Hillary. - (Another Scott) - (83) - Sept. 20, 2007, 05:37:18 PM EDT
         She can't distance herself from her money - (bepatient) - (82) - Sept. 20, 2007, 07:25:07 PM EDT
             I don't think she should - (jake123) - (23) - Sept. 20, 2007, 07:29:52 PM EDT
                 I don't really care if they were right or not - (bepatient) - (22) - Sept. 20, 2007, 08:31:22 PM EDT
                     *COUGH* -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (7) - Sept. 20, 2007, 08:53:53 PM EDT
                         Maybe I should be more clear - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 20, 2007, 10:00:11 PM EDT
                             But its quite OK to endorse a personal insult - (jb4) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2007, 10:44:45 PM EDT
                                 I don't believe I've ever said that. - (bepatient) - Sept. 23, 2007, 12:40:06 AM EDT
                             > Would that 11th Commandment include Colin Powell, then? < - (Ashton) - (3) - Sept. 23, 2007, 04:47:57 AM EDT
                                 Many good points. Thanks. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2007, 08:53:00 AM EDT
                                 I don't understand you. - (bepatient) - Sept. 23, 2007, 10:42:55 AM EDT
                                 I almost brought up the Truman-McDouglas issue - (Simon_Jester) - Sept. 23, 2007, 12:48:32 PM EDT
                     So the dems should bend over and take it - (crazy) - (10) - Sept. 20, 2007, 09:59:38 PM EDT
                         What? - (bepatient) - (9) - Sept. 20, 2007, 10:02:16 PM EDT
                             Damn close - (crazy) - (8) - Sept. 20, 2007, 10:15:38 PM EDT
                                 Indeed. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2007, 10:35:11 PM EDT
                                     "Betray us", just quoting the troops. -NT - (Silverlock) - Sept. 21, 2007, 07:48:09 AM EDT
                                     2 completely different things. -NT - (bepatient) - Sept. 21, 2007, 08:56:57 AM EDT
                                 FWIW - Cindy Sheehan's response re MoveOn ad - (Ashton) - (4) - Sept. 21, 2007, 05:23:50 PM EDT
                                     This reminds me of what Keith Olbermann had to say - (Seamus) - (3) - Sept. 21, 2007, 05:33:40 PM EDT
                                         I find it surprising that Olbermann is still on.. - (Ashton) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2007, 06:58:52 PM EDT
                                             He is signed until 2011 according to Wikipedia - (Seamus) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2007, 07:27:05 PM EDT
                                                 Hmm, there's a thought - - (Ashton) - Sept. 21, 2007, 08:28:40 PM EDT
                     Petraeus is a big boy - I'm sure he's been called worse. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2007, 10:00:45 PM EDT
                         I'm sure he is and I'm sure he doesn't care. - (bepatient) - Sept. 20, 2007, 10:07:06 PM EDT
                     1.5 minutes of Hannity, Rush et al == 50 of this - (Ashton) - Sept. 21, 2007, 06:24:40 AM EDT
             Why should she say anything? - (hnick) - (57) - Sept. 21, 2007, 08:33:41 AM EDT
                 Someone here put forth - (bepatient) - (56) - Sept. 21, 2007, 09:02:05 AM EDT
                     She voted no to this strawman. -NT - (Silverlock) - Sept. 21, 2007, 09:15:44 AM EDT
                     Re: Someone here put forth - (Seamus) - Sept. 21, 2007, 09:27:02 AM EDT
                     I was thinking more in terms olf Another Scott's post - (hnick) - Sept. 21, 2007, 09:46:09 AM EDT
                     Let's hear from the professionals, beep, shall we? - (rcareaga) - (52) - Sept. 21, 2007, 09:55:53 AM EDT
                         No problem with that at all - (bepatient) - (51) - Sept. 21, 2007, 10:20:16 AM EDT
                             Re: No problem with that at all - (Seamus) - (50) - Sept. 21, 2007, 01:34:42 PM EDT
                                 Re: No problem with that at all - (bepatient) - (49) - Sept. 21, 2007, 09:39:36 PM EDT
                                     I'm beginning to think you read a different ad. - (Another Scott) - (32) - Sept. 21, 2007, 10:02:32 PM EDT
                                         Huh? - (bepatient) - (31) - Sept. 21, 2007, 10:15:36 PM EDT
                                             Read the links... -NT - (Another Scott) - (30) - Sept. 21, 2007, 10:19:00 PM EDT
                                                 Re: Read the links... - (bepatient) - (29) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:33:51 AM EDT
                                                     We'll have to agree to disagree. - (Another Scott) - (25) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:46:00 AM EDT
                                                         You linked to the definition - (bepatient) - (24) - Sept. 22, 2007, 01:00:47 AM EDT
                                                             Please read me in my posts. - (Another Scott) - (14) - Sept. 22, 2007, 01:28:31 AM EDT
                                                                 What has he NOT "fallen for the Republican spin machine" on? -NT - (CRConrad) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2007, 02:01:18 AM EDT
                                                                     Quite a bit. But what do you know. -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2007, 02:03:40 AM EDT
                                                                         Quite a bit - I've known you for over ten years now. - (CRConrad) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2007, 02:23:49 AM EDT
                                                                             Thats funny - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2007, 02:43:01 AM EDT
                                                                 You told me to read the link. - (bepatient) - (9) - Sept. 22, 2007, 02:02:59 AM EDT
                                                                     Oh, bullpucky! - (CRConrad) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2007, 02:34:45 AM EDT
                                                                         BS - straight up. (new thread) - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2007, 02:47:50 AM EDT
                                                                     The definition you quoted from was used to explain - (Seamus) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2007, 11:01:41 AM EDT
                                                                         Go to the dictionary. -NT - (bepatient) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2007, 11:41:54 AM EDT
                                                                             You are just playing with the context - (Seamus) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2007, 11:49:20 AM EDT
                                                                                 Give me a break - (bepatient) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2007, 11:55:47 AM EDT
                                                                                     It is absurd for you not to admit that there are different - (Seamus) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:24:59 PM EDT
                                                                                         Not worth it - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:41:55 PM EDT
                                                                                             It just may do that - (Seamus) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:52:01 PM EDT
                                                             "Betray" was necessary to make it rhyme. - (a6l6e6x) - (8) - Sept. 22, 2007, 09:44:32 AM EDT
                                                                 *Ding* *Ding* *Ding* -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 22, 2007, 09:52:50 AM EDT
                                                                 schoolyard name-calling - (rcareaga) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2007, 02:11:10 PM EDT
                                                                     There you go again - (bepatient) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2007, 03:56:40 PM EDT
                                                                         Ok, so I lied. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2007, 04:45:24 PM EDT
                                                                             Short answer (and no biggie, welcome back) - (bepatient) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2007, 08:00:41 PM EDT
                                                                                 To me it is just as important a candidate support - (Seamus) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2007, 08:08:06 PM EDT
                                                                                     That hasn't panned out historically - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2007, 08:50:41 PM EDT
                                                                                 2008 is not 1988. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 22, 2007, 08:51:00 PM EDT
                                                     Well, by that definition, MoveOn.org is right - (jb4) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2007, 11:08:52 PM EDT
                                                         Thanks for the affirmation - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2007, 12:38:13 AM EDT
                                                             NO...but it does happen - (jb4) - Sept. 30, 2007, 10:35:09 PM EDT
                                     Re: No problem with that at all - (Seamus) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2007, 07:38:49 AM EDT
                                         Re: No problem with that at all - (bepatient) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2007, 11:53:32 AM EDT
                                             Stupid, but they still, IMO, were not calling Gen. Peatrus - (Seamus) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:25:34 PM EDT
                                                 Well then petition Webster to change the definition - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:13:13 PM EDT
                                                     I don't have to petition Websters - (Seamus) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:30:36 PM EDT
                                     You seem to be ignoring a major point. - (hnick) - (10) - Sept. 22, 2007, 09:17:42 AM EDT
                                         No I'm not - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2007, 11:54:44 AM EDT
                                             But you also said that - (Seamus) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:48:49 PM EDT
                                                 What I'd seen - (bepatient) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2007, 01:03:40 PM EDT
                                                     Just curious, where did you see that? -NT - (Seamus) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2007, 01:31:20 PM EDT
                                                         Gonna have to get my laptop back - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2007, 01:47:10 PM EDT
                                                     Are you KIDDING me? - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2007, 12:31:40 PM EDT
                                                         She hasn't yet. - (bepatient) - Sept. 23, 2007, 04:21:36 PM EDT
                                         Actually he's not - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:01:35 PM EDT
                                             All right. Difference of opinion is all. - (hnick) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2007, 12:21:00 PM EDT
                                                 Nor can I - (Simon_Jester) - Sept. 23, 2007, 12:19:55 PM EDT

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