You are being too logical

Post #287,094 by Seamus 6/16/07 7:19:03 AM Reply	You are being too logical The NT doesn't really make the OT obsolete. The NT is not a complete doctrine by itself. Paul and other early church leaders did the best they could to tie the two together, but the Paul was not a top notch Rabbi, if he was a Rabbi at all. He really didn't understand the logical system that was the beginnings of the modern rabbinical system the Jews have today. Explaining the relationship between the OT and the NT is a big part of what Christian religious leader do and how they maintain they status as religious leaders. Showing the lack of a strong logical thread between the two books is just going to be considered proof that you don't get it. Seamus
Post #287,102 by Andrew Grygus 6/16/07 1:14:55 PM Reply	Not a complete doctrine? What did I just say - Christianity is a sub-cult. Adoption of the Old Testament is lamentable but it was probably the most coherent thing they could get hold of - having been periodically organized, revised and republished to support the political ambitions of particular rulers. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #287,104 by JayMehaffey 6/16/07 1:56:46 PM Reply	There is an unexpected plus in there also There was an unexpected plus in the Christians pairing of the New and Old Testament. Because Christianity is a guilt and faith cult, it turns out there is an advantage in having impossible standards, contradictions in doctrine and inexplicable stories in the hold book. People have to constantly work at their faith and regularly feel guilty for failing. But they are trained to respond to such feelings by working harder at double think, obeying the church and donating more. Jay
Post #287,106 by Seamus 6/16/07 4:18:34 PM Reply	IMO it is not really a sub-cult It borrows lots of elements from different religions, definitely the mystery religions, but it was able to mask those elements, over time, so well that it is hard to say that it really is a sub-cult of anything. The intellectual endeavors of finding consistency between the OT and the NT is a big part of its success. So losing the link doesn't seem like a possibility. Seamus
Post #287,111 by boxley 6/16/07 4:53:59 PM Reply	just think of those poor bassars in the pulpits if they couldnt use the juicy bits in the OT. On the other hand the congragations on the east coast would be able to get home in time for the afternoon kickoffs. thanx, bill Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]

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