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Post #285,977 by crazy 5/31/07 7:44:40 PM 5/31/07 7:46:27 PM Reply	Huh? You means I can use it to assign a group of people (based on group membership) the ability execute specific command (or a group using pattern matching wild cards) as a specific user (NOT ADMIN USER), ie: a production user that has very clearly defined rights against certain files and certain hardware. I doubt it. *"Those who fail to understand UNIX are doomed to reimplement it. Poorly"* Edited by crazy May 31, 2007, 07:46:27 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #285,983 by boxley 5/31/07 8:05:48 PM Reply	that was my understanding [link\|http://www.vistaexplained.org\|http://www.vistaexplained.org] if one looks in the registry you will see a key that points to \\windows\\gnu\\bin\\sudo.tk HTH thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #285,984 by folkert 5/31/07 8:14:08 PM Reply	I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. You are right. Most of (All) the "Milestones" Microsoft has made with Vista for security have been in UNIX, since... forever or at least since the "everything is a file" idea came about. It is really a shame. I just hope they fix it. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* `PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0`
Post #286,012 by pwhysall 6/1/07 1:23:06 AM Reply	nod Example. DACLs. Windows-only folk make a big deal out of these, saying that the UID/GID-based security of UNIX filesystems is inadequate, and that you need NTFS (which, for all that it's attached to a steaming pile of shit operating system, is actually a pretty good filesystem). Tell me again when the proprietary UNIXes grew these? Was it 1992ish? When did VMS have these? 1982-ish? Windows: failing to understand that writing a badly-designed wizard is not the same as innovation since 1995. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]

Vista -- so far - (andread) - (87) - May 21, 2007, 04:22:36 PM EDT

Damning w/ faint praise - (jb4) - (86) - May 24, 2007, 11:13:51 PM EDT

Hey, I've dealt with Vista . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (85) - May 24, 2007, 11:45:41 PM EDT

Just had my first experience with it... - (jb4) - (84) - May 25, 2007, 11:35:36 PM EDT

I'm quite convinced they released this turkey . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - May 26, 2007, 12:13:27 AM EDT

That might be NVidia's fault. - (inthane-chan) - (82) - May 26, 2007, 12:33:31 AM EDT

Re: That might be NVidia's fault. - (jb4) - (81) - May 26, 2007, 02:24:05 PM EDT

fear change - (altmann) - (80) - May 26, 2007, 10:59:29 PM EDT

Micros~1 redefines English...Film at 11! - (jb4) - (3) - May 26, 2007, 11:32:52 PM EDT

Re: Micros~1 redefines English...Film at 11! - (altmann) - May 27, 2007, 01:50:17 AM EDT

In the version of English I speak... - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 02:27:21 AM EDT

**chuckle** -NT - (jb4) - May 30, 2007, 09:24:11 AM EDT

Remind me again... You're not an MS fanboy or shill, just... - (CRConrad) - (75) - May 27, 2007, 09:28:02 AM EDT

No trailing slash in HR tag, Chris. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 27, 2007, 06:18:46 AM EDT

Yes there is, but I think there should be a space before it -NT - (drewk) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 09:08:14 AM EDT

Re: Yes there is, but I think there should be a space bef - (pwhysall) - May 27, 2007, 10:37:48 AM EDT

Hey, don't be picking on Hubert J. Farnsworth now! - (Another Scott) - May 27, 2007, 07:14:16 AM EDT

Seemed like a reasonable reply to me. - (hnick) - (8) - May 27, 2007, 10:56:17 AM EDT

You mean alt-tab; ctrl-tab is for docs within an MDI app. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 01:14:08 PM EDT

Ok. I don't have a windows machine at hand... - (hnick) - May 27, 2007, 02:22:04 PM EDT

On the surface of it, yes. - (CRConrad) - (5) - May 27, 2007, 01:27:43 PM EDT

Cool... - (hnick) - (4) - May 27, 2007, 02:29:36 PM EDT

+10. Inciteful. - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 02:59:50 PM EDT

Of course you did... :) -NT - (hnick) - May 27, 2007, 03:25:21 PM EDT

Speak for yourself... - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 07:08:56 PM EDT

Ummm. Yeah. -NT - (folkert) - May 27, 2007, 07:25:20 PM EDT

It's not easy being.... - (andread) - (61) - May 28, 2007, 07:45:50 AM EDT

"Works reasonably well" - (pwhysall) - (58) - May 28, 2007, 08:09:07 AM EDT

every microsoft advance has never exceeded reasonably well - (boxley) - May 28, 2007, 10:00:11 AM EDT

An interesting rating - (crazy) - May 28, 2007, 10:53:40 AM EDT

Not up to your usual standard... - (andread) - (54) - May 29, 2007, 09:44:31 AM EDT

Re: Not up to your usual standard... - (pwhysall) - (48) - May 29, 2007, 10:22:56 AM EDT

Wrong - (andread) - (47) - May 29, 2007, 03:07:17 PM EDT

What are you gibbering about, you cretin? Re-read his posts! -NT - (CRConrad) - (44) - May 29, 2007, 03:12:50 PM EDT

Oh, Chuckles - (andread) - (43) - May 30, 2007, 01:37:29 PM EDT

OK, so you're just not capable of reading with comprehension -NT - (CRConrad) - (42) - May 30, 2007, 02:23:48 PM EDT

Hah - (andread) - (41) - May 30, 2007, 03:12:42 PM EDT

So how is that any the less annoying? - (pwhysall) - (40) - May 30, 2007, 05:08:37 PM EDT

Wrong in caps is still wrong - (andread) - (39) - May 31, 2007, 10:49:55 AM EDT

Which part is wrong? - (pwhysall) - May 31, 2007, 11:57:28 AM EDT

Ok. Lets review - (bepatient) - (37) - May 31, 2007, 01:17:02 PM EDT

"Attack Surface"?!?! Sheesh. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 31, 2007, 01:33:27 PM EDT

At least I didn't write it :-) - (bepatient) - May 31, 2007, 01:48:24 PM EDT

(Isn't that pretty large - on a sponge? ;-) -NT - (Ashton) - May 31, 2007, 11:05:42 PM EDT

I LOVE the scenario where they say disabling is reasonable - (crazy) - (1) - May 31, 2007, 06:14:20 PM EDT

That typifies the problem with UAC: - (static) - May 31, 2007, 11:48:03 PM EDT

Well now. - (folkert) - (4) - May 31, 2007, 07:15:43 PM EDT

Huh? - (crazy) - (3) - May 31, 2007, 07:46:27 PM EDT

that was my understanding - (boxley) - May 31, 2007, 08:05:48 PM EDT

I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. - (folkert) - (1) - May 31, 2007, 08:14:08 PM EDT

*nod* - (pwhysall) - June 1, 2007, 01:23:06 AM EDT

Thanks Bill - (andread) - (25) - June 1, 2007, 10:11:09 AM EDT

Re: Thanks Bill - (pwhysall) - (24) - June 1, 2007, 12:58:57 PM EDT

I'm thinking... - (bepatient) - (23) - June 1, 2007, 02:46:41 PM EDT

It's the other way around; the poor nitwit is incapable... - (CRConrad) - (22) - June 5, 2007, 02:52:37 AM EDT

You're wrong again - (andread) - (16) - June 4, 2007, 04:22:20 PM EDT

Point = Missed. Intentionally or otherwise. -NT - (mmoffitt) - June 4, 2007, 04:26:59 PM EDT

Thank you so much for AGAIN explaining the *purpose* of UAC. - (CRConrad) - June 4, 2007, 05:29:47 PM EDT

Question - (drewk) - (12) - June 4, 2007, 08:01:32 PM EDT

Re: Question - (andread) - (11) - June 5, 2007, 08:57:46 AM EDT

ahh, cascading shills - (crazy) - (10) - June 5, 2007, 05:02:13 PM EDT

The speaker was Michael J Murphy - (andread) - (9) - June 6, 2007, 11:38:01 AM EDT

And I'd want to do that because? - (crazy) - (8) - June 6, 2007, 03:46:53 PM EDT

Not a shill - (andread) - (7) - June 7, 2007, 08:47:35 AM EDT

Serious question: Are you brain damaged? - (crazy) - (6) - June 7, 2007, 03:29:44 PM EDT

Re: Serious question: Are you brain damaged? - (andread) - (5) - June 7, 2007, 04:51:34 PM EDT

Ah, the wonders of Wikipedia - (crazy) - (4) - June 7, 2007, 05:47:43 PM EDT

I had always understood the term by his definition. - (bepatient) - (3) - June 7, 2007, 07:14:26 PM EDT

Indeed; if they self-identify properly, they're salespeople. -NT - (jake123) - June 7, 2007, 07:21:26 PM EDT

I disagree (new thread) - (crazy) - June 7, 2007, 10:18:53 PM EDT

I'm ambivalent. However, in Mega$loth's case ... - (mmoffitt) - June 8, 2007, 10:34:53 AM EDT

The problem here is you are defining a very limited user set - (bepatient) - June 4, 2007, 09:56:58 PM EDT

"he's known" - HTH </CRC> -NT - (pwhysall) - (1) - June 5, 2007, 02:44:39 AM EDT

Aaargh! Fixed, thanx. (I can has cheezburger now?) -NT - (CRConrad) - June 5, 2007, 02:53:52 AM EDT

Can't or pretends is the same in this case - (crazy) - (2) - June 5, 2007, 07:08:32 AM EDT

Oy you - (boxley) - (1) - June 5, 2007, 09:56:11 AM EDT

Oy back - (crazy) - June 5, 2007, 05:00:07 PM EDT

Another way to disable UAC - TweakUAC. - (Another Scott) - June 5, 2007, 07:30:20 PM EDT

the mac commercial explains it very well :-) -NT - (boxley) - May 29, 2007, 03:45:42 PM EDT

I've got a Mac running OS X - (pwhysall) - May 29, 2007, 03:48:29 PM EDT

Consider. - (static) - (4) - May 29, 2007, 10:13:05 PM EDT

Vista popularity. - (Silverlock) - (3) - May 29, 2007, 11:13:39 PM EDT

There have been lines. - (folkert) - (2) - May 29, 2007, 11:47:33 PM EDT

So, knowing that many are paying $250 . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - May 30, 2007, 12:17:57 AM EDT

There is. - (folkert) - May 30, 2007, 07:28:01 AM EDT

And that's only the surface... - (scoenye) - May 30, 2007, 07:39:25 AM EDT

Ah. Jealous, because you can't figure... - (CRConrad) - May 28, 2007, 02:06:43 PM EDT

best explaination of the UAC so far - (boxley) - June 12, 2007, 11:33:56 AM EDT

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