Post #285,793
5/30/07 9:50:00 AM
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Question re: Javascript
A friend of mine is learning Javascript for a major project at work, and is really nervous about it - but I'm looking for good resources for learning and reference for a beginner.
Any suggestions (besides here, I've already given her the URL for this site and told her about the IGM, but I think she's somewhat self-conscious about her lack of knowledge)?
Thanks!
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- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #285,796
5/30/07 9:52:18 AM
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The Javascript Bible
aka [link|http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0596101996|Javascript: The Definitive Guide]. I have the Third Edition behind me on a bookshelf; they're up to Fifth Edition these days.
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #285,805
5/30/07 10:04:22 AM
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Re: The Javascript Bible
Thanks, I ordered that this morning under the advisement of my finace.
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Post #285,808
5/30/07 10:09:08 AM
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Welcome to the boards!
Javascript is not my favorite language (I'm a Java developer), but the things you can do with it when it comes to Ajax are pretty darn cool.
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #285,812
5/30/07 10:14:14 AM
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Re: Welcome to the boards!
Thanks, Skip has been trying to get me here for ages... I finally gave in when I realized for a project I need to become a developer and learn javascript, css, html and xml...
oy.
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Post #285,798
5/30/07 9:56:07 AM
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Re: Question re: Javascript
Ok so I'm the friend in question...
be kind, I'm not a developer.
<<insert pity quote here>>
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Post #285,810
5/30/07 10:11:20 AM
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/me waves
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Post #285,811
5/30/07 10:12:42 AM
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/me grins
Hi Box :-)
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Post #285,818
5/30/07 10:45:19 AM
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OK, let's run you through the basics around here.
1. Windows is rubbish
2. Linux and OS X are good, but VMS is better
3. I like BMWs
4. Ashton is inscrutable
5. Box is random
6. Grygus can cook
7. Admin is beefs
8. CRC is grammatically correct.
9. Shun Yendor. It's the right thing to do.
Peter
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Post #285,819
5/30/07 10:50:34 AM
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Re: OK, let's run you through the basics around here.
I'm afraid to wonder what you may assign to me soon...
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Post #285,820
5/30/07 10:50:38 AM
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she knows a little bit, drinking with skip n me
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Post #285,822
5/30/07 11:14:14 AM
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Beefs!
I can has cheezburger?!?
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #285,881
5/30/07 6:11:06 PM
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"cheeboorger" Get it right, infidel!
jb4
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Post #285,882
5/30/07 6:14:42 PM
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You wot not.
Geddit rite urselfs, or I all up in ur base, kildin all ur doods.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #285,883
5/30/07 6:17:55 PM
5/30/07 6:18:15 PM
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Yabbut remember:
All your base are belong to us!
/me declares victory and goes home!
jb4
"It's hard for me, you know, living in this beautiful White House, to give you a firsthand assessment."
— George W. Bush, when asked if he believed Iraq was in a state of civil war (Newsweek, 26 Feb 07)
Edited by jb4
May 30, 2007, 06:18:15 PM EDT
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Post #285,917
5/31/07 1:51:43 AM
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Some extra JS info.
JavaScript in and of itself is a complete, capable language with an unusual object model. Wrestling with the language itself is generally pretty minimal. It's sane and orthogonal, for the most part.
However, JavaScript in a web browser uses the Document Object Model (aka the DOM) to do anything useful. Wrestling with the DOM is going to be an ongoing battle. And multiple browsers don't help. Many people conflate the two.
Once you know the basics, then the references at [link|http://www.visibone.com/|http://www.visibone.com/] can be of enormous benefit. The browser developer pages are a little bit of date, unfortunately, but updates are being worked on.
As far as developing goes, don't be afraid to do things the simple way at first, but be alert for finding the shortcuts. However, don't over-optimise. Fortuantely, if you haven't done any other programming, then you won't bring any bad habits to JavaScript programming. Unfortutantely, if you haven't done any other programming, then you can't bring any good habits to JavaScript programming. :-)
Wade.
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Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Post #285,932
5/31/07 9:29:44 AM
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Thanks for the extra info.
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Post #285,809
5/30/07 10:10:55 AM
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remind me on sunday to bring a java book
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Post #285,828
5/30/07 11:54:49 AM
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Am I going to be lucky enough to meet a new member?
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
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Post #285,833
5/30/07 12:29:32 PM
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Re: Am I going to be lucky enough to meet a new member?
Unfortunately (or fortunately for you :-) I am otherwise engaged on Sunday.
perhaps another time.
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Post #285,836
5/30/07 1:25:51 PM
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Bummer
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
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Post #286,011
6/1/07 12:41:42 AM
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Douglas Crockford's videos
Douglas Crockford has some useful, high protein articles on his site ([link|http://javascript.crockford.com/|http://javascript.crockford.com/]), and some amazingly good videos on YUI Theater ([link|http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/|http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/])
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