Post #282,283
4/18/07 12:07:17 PM
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Context of the question
How can God allow things like this to happen? is the question being addressed.
And the answer given is consistent with the belief that sin is a by product of man's rebellion against God...essentially letting God off the hook and blaming man. (sort of like the climate change arguments put forth by al gore)((<-poke))
He's not blaming the killing on the teaching of biology or evolution.
In fact he says this "I\ufffdm not at all saying that the person who committed these murders at Virginia Tech was driven by a belief in millions of years or evolution."
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Post #282,285
4/18/07 1:41:59 PM
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That sounds like...
BeeP expounds: In fact he says this "I\ufffdm not at all saying that the person who committed these murders at Virginia Tech was driven by a belief in millions of years or evolution." That sounds preciesely like what people say when watever it is they say they're "not at all saying" is exactly what they are, in fact, saying.
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Post #282,286
4/18/07 1:47:03 PM
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I don't pretend
that I know what the writer was thinking when he wrote the piece.
I can infer context and, as such, don't believe what he wrote to infer that he blames teaching biology to be the issue. What I infer is that he blames thousands of years of man's sin in introducing these elements (evil) into our society.
The short scoop,
How can God allow this to happen?
His answer, its not God's fault, its yours (collectively).
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
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Post #282,304
4/18/07 8:14:58 PM
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Invent a 'personality' for a 'God' - and ya gets to generate
interminable auto-generating closed-loop emotional-brain masturbations, like the above.
He who defines God gets to rail at all those who didn't get a vote in teh script-writing. (Make that asymptotic, to cover the millions of induhvidual personal-Gods and.. every single biped regularly faces: Florida '00. Vote cancelled.)
Thank GawdTheBIGKahuna - the new Dr. Who is on KTEH, Silly Valley!
In the second espisode, The Doctor and {yes, indeed..} Rose witness the explosive expansion of Old Sol. Now *there's* a dose of scale and relativity for the Rupturing-Out brigade.
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Post #282,509
4/20/07 7:02:15 PM
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Letting God off the hook is silly
Granted -- if mindless adulation of authority varies directly with the percieved level of authority, the rationalizing impulse to let the ultimate Decider and Buck-stops-here Guy off the hook scot-free must be just overpowering for a lot of people.
BUT: I don't think there's any reason a christian should feel the need to let God off the hook about anything. Is it not central to christianity that God left Himself on the hook very dramatically and quite literally 2000 yrs ago for all things like this?
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Post #282,558
4/21/07 7:28:25 AM
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Also, the simpler-logic (variant of the same?) argument:
If it's all the fault of Sinful Man ("Created in My image", IIRC!), then isn't it *actually* Gawd's fault for *creating* him sinful innafuckingfirstplace(*)?
(*): Yes, fuckwit, that's a word.
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Post #282,617
4/22/07 5:01:03 PM
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Re: Yes, fuckwit, that's a word.
PROVE IT!
Let's see a link to a real online dictionary to backup your totally inane BULLSHIT
lincoln
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Post #282,661
4/23/07 12:54:32 AM
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Irony Is Dead
Peter
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Post #282,677
4/23/07 5:30:25 AM
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Whatch your "Subject:" lines, you profane in-duh-vidual.
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Post #282,766
4/23/07 3:31:02 PM
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I was quoting YOU, dontchaknow
or are you that oblivious to reality?
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States.
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Post #282,771
4/23/07 3:42:39 PM
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Take a valium
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Post #282,776
4/23/07 4:04:48 PM
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Ditto.
And quoting a message body is no excuse for profanity in the subject.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #282,768
4/23/07 3:38:00 PM
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And when it's time to "put up or shut up"
YOU DO NEITHER!
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States.
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Post #282,783
4/23/07 5:07:06 PM
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boring
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep
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Post #282,937
4/24/07 5:08:28 PM
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Then don't read this thread
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States.
[link|mailto:golf_lover44@yahoo.com|contact me]
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Post #282,948
4/24/07 5:57:49 PM
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Stop hijacking the threads then.
Seriously. This is approaching full-on Bryce levels of crap.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #282,991
4/24/07 10:31:46 PM
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He wasn't around for Bryce
And he hasn't threatened you - yet.
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Post #282,866
4/24/07 8:52:25 AM
4/24/07 8:52:40 AM
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Bigger != Better
Go on. Make the penis joke.
Peter
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Edited by pwhysall
April 24, 2007, 08:52:40 AM EDT
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Post #283,013
4/25/07 5:00:48 AM
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Oh, BTW: The test was apparently successful. (new thread)
Created as new thread #283012 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=283012|Oh, BTW: The test was apparently successful.]
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