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2/12/02 3:33:19 PM

2/12/02 3:35:15 PM

Carry on...

you appear to have nothing to add.

You gave your definition of progressive.

I showed you how the proposal fits within your definition.

Enjoy the remainder of your recess without me.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson}

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

Edited by bepatient Feb. 12, 2002, 03:35:15 PM EST

Carry on...

you appear to have nothing to add. You gave your definition of progressive. I showed you how the proposal meets your definition. Enjoy the remainder of your recess without me.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson}
BePatient

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Post #28,149

2/12/02 3:59:04 PM

"Less regressive" != progressive.

I'm sorry if that minor fact has managed to elude you.

Or did you also envision some sort of mandatory purchasing scheme in your fantasy?

Something like, everyone MUST spend 20% of their annual income (non-adjusted) on taxable goods and services?

Now THAT would be a progressive sales tax.

Oh, but why don't we just cut out the requirement to purchase and just tax their income directy?

Can he do it? - (mmoffitt) - (118) - Feb. 5, 2002, 01:40:10 PM EST

trickle down economics, smells like P - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 5, 2002, 01:47:06 PM EST

"Austerity" my foot! - (wharris2) - Feb. 5, 2002, 04:26:36 PM EST

Fuzzy Math... - (jb4) - Feb. 5, 2002, 03:53:39 PM EST

Keeping your eye on the prize... - (screamer) - Feb. 5, 2002, 05:04:58 PM EST

I think he can - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 5, 2002, 06:18:56 PM EST

"Supply side" economics never works - (nking) - (112) - Feb. 6, 2002, 09:44:57 AM EST

Slight disagreement... - (jb4) - Feb. 6, 2002, 10:59:22 AM EST

Actually, upside down is how it all started. - (mmoffitt) - (104) - Feb. 6, 2002, 12:23:06 PM EST

You do remember that government revenues increased, right? -NT - (wharris2) - (103) - Feb. 6, 2002, 01:51:10 PM EST

Don't bother them with such trivial details. - (bepatient) - (101) - Feb. 6, 2002, 07:00:35 PM EST

Jed Clampet syndrome - (nking) - Feb. 6, 2002, 09:19:40 PM EST

Doh! forgot about the trivial detail syndrome - (wharris2) - (98) - Feb. 7, 2002, 05:51:19 AM EST

Amen - (SpiceWare) - (97) - Feb. 7, 2002, 12:05:54 PM EST

How about 7% if you make a billion, 28% if you make 50K? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Feb. 7, 2002, 12:24:48 PM EST

hang those suckers -NT - (wharris2) - Feb. 7, 2002, 01:27:49 PM EST

and where did you get that from? - (SpiceWare) - Feb. 8, 2002, 11:31:56 AM EST

Hold on a minute thar! - (nking) - (93) - Feb. 7, 2002, 10:13:06 PM EST

Elimination of loop holes is a major point of the Flat Tax -NT - (SpiceWare) - (92) - Feb. 8, 2002, 11:37:08 AM EST

I know, we'll have the Tooth Fairy write the new law. - (mmoffitt) - (91) - Feb. 8, 2002, 01:30:11 PM EST

Geesh, what 's up your ass? - (SpiceWare) - Feb. 8, 2002, 02:26:44 PM EST

Oh...you mean the guys who yell.... - (bepatient) - (89) - Feb. 8, 2002, 03:46:29 PM EST

The flat tax will never work - (nking) - (1) - Feb. 8, 2002, 09:01:20 PM EST

Whoa, there, it was Jerry Brown first! -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 10, 2002, 06:36:18 PM EST

On fairness. - (mmoffitt) - (86) - Feb. 10, 2002, 06:43:00 PM EST

Different definitions of fair. -NT - (bepatient) - (85) - Feb. 11, 2002, 08:30:24 AM EST

Re: Different definitions of fair. (more) - (bepatient) - (84) - Feb. 11, 2002, 11:23:17 AM EST

Hasn't a sales tax been proven to be regressive? - (Brandioch) - (11) - Feb. 11, 2002, 12:04:32 PM EST

Thats why you exempt food and clothing. - (bepatient) - (10) - Feb. 11, 2002, 12:12:36 PM EST

And that makes it non-regressive? - (Brandioch) - (9) - Feb. 11, 2002, 12:39:10 PM EST

I never made that claim. - (bepatient) - (8) - Feb. 11, 2002, 01:21:35 PM EST

Just wondering why you're advocating it. - (Brandioch) - (7) - Feb. 11, 2002, 01:23:46 PM EST

Entertaining yarn at IRS site. - (Another Scott) - Feb. 11, 2002, 01:59:55 PM EST

If you insist... - (bepatient) - (5) - Feb. 11, 2002, 02:16:21 PM EST

It isn't me that has the problem. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Feb. 11, 2002, 03:08:56 PM EST

whatever. - (bepatient) - (3) - Feb. 11, 2002, 09:30:38 PM EST

Target acquired. Proceeding with SLAM! - (Brandioch) - (2) - Feb. 12, 2002, 11:34:22 AM EST

Carry on... - (bepatient) - (1) - Feb. 12, 2002, 03:35:15 PM EST

"Less regressive" != progressive. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 12, 2002, 03:59:04 PM EST

No one wants to punish anyone for success. - (mmoffitt) - (28) - Feb. 11, 2002, 12:46:33 PM EST

Well... - (bepatient) - (26) - Feb. 11, 2002, 02:05:58 PM EST

Let's get a couple things straight. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Feb. 11, 2002, 03:51:32 PM EST

Bravo!! - (Silverlock) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2002, 03:56:21 PM EST

Thanks ;-) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 11, 2002, 04:03:21 PM EST

Lets do. - (bepatient) - (9) - Feb. 11, 2002, 09:24:32 PM EST

Iaccoca a good example - (Silverlock) - (8) - Feb. 12, 2002, 10:50:20 AM EST

Incorrect assertion... - (bepatient) - (7) - Feb. 12, 2002, 03:29:14 PM EST

So we misunderstand each other - (Silverlock) - (5) - Feb. 12, 2002, 03:58:15 PM EST

Hard to get at the real heart of the matter.. - (bepatient) - (4) - Feb. 12, 2002, 04:36:50 PM EST

Here's some real heart for you ;-) - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Feb. 12, 2002, 09:14:43 PM EST

Correction - (bepatient) - (2) - Feb. 12, 2002, 11:07:06 PM EST

"stated position" inferred from your posts. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2002, 01:22:08 PM EST

Ahhh, IC - (bepatient) - Feb. 13, 2002, 02:28:36 PM EST

Re: Lee Iacocca - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 12, 2002, 04:46:39 PM EST

Ahem...back to the original subject... - (Simon_Jester) - (7) - Feb. 12, 2002, 10:38:22 AM EST

On Force, study California in the 1940's. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Feb. 12, 2002, 09:10:02 PM EST

Cecil doesn't think so. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Feb. 12, 2002, 10:52:01 PM EST

Thanks - (bepatient) - (1) - Feb. 12, 2002, 11:11:03 PM EST

Google on The Straight Dope - (Another Scott) - Feb. 12, 2002, 11:15:47 PM EST

Heh. - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 13, 2002, 01:25:15 PM EST

Evil Grin - before you start praising mass transit... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2002, 08:46:38 AM EST

RightO! Thanks for reiterating the original point! -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 13, 2002, 01:27:10 PM EST

7 billion consumers? Me thinks you make a huge mistake - (wharris2) - (2) - Feb. 11, 2002, 04:30:00 PM EST

Missed a comma and 3 - (bepatient) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2002, 08:55:54 PM EST

Sounds much better -NT - (wharris2) - Feb. 12, 2002, 01:55:15 PM EST

I'm not replying to this one__ baby from candy. (you owe me) -NT - (Ashton) - Feb. 11, 2002, 07:35:19 PM EST

That is capitalism for you - (nking) - Feb. 12, 2002, 11:41:01 PM EST

Re: No one wants to punish anyone for success. - (nking) - Feb. 13, 2002, 10:32:11 AM EST

The rich get away with too much - (nking) - (42) - Feb. 12, 2002, 11:29:41 PM EST

Assertions without foundation. - (bepatient) - (41) - Feb. 13, 2002, 01:34:55 AM EST

The way it really is - (nking) - (7) - Feb. 13, 2002, 09:34:11 AM EST

Take a chill pill, ya whiner -NT - (bbronson) - (6) - Feb. 13, 2002, 10:14:12 AM EST

I already have - (nking) - (5) - Feb. 13, 2002, 10:33:16 AM EST

They don't seem to be working. Please move it to Flames. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Feb. 13, 2002, 10:57:01 AM EST

Thanks for expressing my thought so well, Scott. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 13, 2002, 11:00:19 AM EST

Wow. - (bepatient) - Feb. 13, 2002, 11:35:00 AM EST

Sorry this IS Politics, rant away! -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2002, 03:33:14 PM EST

Thank you - (nking) - Feb. 14, 2002, 11:22:14 PM EST

Re: the entire scrooges argument. - (mmoffitt) - (32) - Feb. 13, 2002, 01:55:02 PM EST

Progress. - (bepatient) - (31) - Feb. 13, 2002, 03:11:59 PM EST

You don't like "screwing"? How about... - (mmoffitt) - (25) - Feb. 13, 2002, 03:36:12 PM EST

Bizness is morally neuter, ethically impoverished. - (Ashton) - (21) - Feb. 13, 2002, 10:58:17 PM EST

I expected you here sooner ;-) - (bepatient) - (20) - Feb. 14, 2002, 12:51:38 AM EST

I will never understand this. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Feb. 14, 2002, 11:52:31 AM EST

Knock, knock... - (screamer) - (2) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:17:49 AM EST

Simpler explanation. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:27:50 AM EST

Fair enough... Now I understand... - (screamer) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:47:26 AM EST

My solution? has always been: actual OPERATING checks & - (Ashton) - (15) - Feb. 14, 2002, 03:01:24 PM EST

Re: govt. - (a6l6e6x) - (14) - Feb. 14, 2002, 03:17:03 PM EST

Yes but.. in concentrating on that 'least' - (Ashton) - (13) - Feb. 14, 2002, 04:09:42 PM EST

Federal - (bepatient) - (12) - Feb. 15, 2002, 10:44:17 AM EST

Missed point, I think. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:35:49 AM EST

You can't believe that - (bepatient) - Feb. 15, 2002, 12:42:25 PM EST

Bravo! - (screamer) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:41:14 AM EST

That delicate balance.. - (Ashton) - (8) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:50:09 PM EST

I hope this isn't lost. I have a question. - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Feb. 16, 2002, 03:45:40 PM EST

anarchy and chaos is much preferable to a benevolent - (boxley) - Feb. 16, 2002, 07:22:52 PM EST

I can't imagine such a construct as, - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2002, 10:42:17 PM EST

But then, Plato's philosopher king, comes to mind. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 17, 2002, 01:03:04 PM EST

Benevolent dictatorship? - (Silverlock) - Feb. 17, 2002, 02:04:13 AM EST

The King is coming - (nking) - (2) - Feb. 17, 2002, 03:08:56 PM EST

Indulge your fantasy. - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 17, 2002, 03:46:30 PM EST

It is a question of when - (nking) - Feb. 17, 2002, 06:00:25 PM EST

Overestimating marketing. - (bepatient) - Feb. 14, 2002, 12:38:20 AM EST

Mood rings should have been illegal? :-P -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 14, 2002, 08:29:21 AM EST

YES! Mine was always black :-) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 14, 2002, 11:58:08 AM EST

Wrongo! - (nking) - (4) - Feb. 14, 2002, 09:56:57 PM EST

Read one book. - (bepatient) - (3) - Feb. 15, 2002, 10:46:07 AM EST

I'm already shocked - (nking) - (2) - Feb. 15, 2002, 08:10:10 PM EST

Laugh. - (bepatient) - (1) - Feb. 17, 2002, 08:29:53 PM EST

Like I said - (nking) - Feb. 17, 2002, 09:49:41 PM EST

It doesn't pay me personally. - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 7, 2002, 09:05:13 AM EST

You do remember the Debt sextupled, right? -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 7, 2002, 09:07:53 AM EST

My favorite trivia question - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Feb. 9, 2002, 08:35:46 PM EST

Some references. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 9, 2002, 11:36:02 PM EST

Sorry, no good references - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 11, 2002, 02:17:06 AM EST

Damn you, Ben. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Feb. 10, 2002, 06:45:49 PM EST

I can but try :-) - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 11, 2002, 02:32:49 AM EST

And what was the balance of trade? - (bepatient) - Feb. 11, 2002, 11:40:35 AM EST

I didn't think people ate those...
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