It's probably as close as you can get on a too-Large topic in a Pop-sponsored "Battle of the Titans" -- via the common digital-think either-or presumptive.
If the contenders cannot see the necessity of looking beyond hunter/gatherer superstitious roots for a few milliseconds; (if either one cannot conceive of a 'spiritual being' NOT belonging to the F. W. Woolworth corporate religion of ter ancestors) - then
You will get this sort of exchange. The 'blinkers' will likely be listed on the coroner's Cause-of-Death forensic report.