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Post #280,029
by static
3/29/07 9:01:49 PM
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New He likes telling his stories.
Not that that's a bad thing, as he has a lot of good stories. I remember more detail the printing subsystem incident in another article. :-)

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Post #280,061
by drewk
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3/30/07 3:44:33 AM
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New I wish they'd followed up on that
When he talked about how they were more interested in how to use the printing subsystem to force people onto Windows, what did he come up with? What did they spend time and money working on that was not in the interest of creating a better system, but creating better lock-in?
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Post #280,069
by static
3/30/07 6:22:26 AM
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New Me too.
In the older article I read, IIRC, part of the impetus of TrueType was from fixing the Windows' printing subsystem.

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Post #280,070
by pwhysall
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3/30/07 7:14:57 AM
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New Naw.
TrueType was invented by Apple, not MS.

The impetus for using TT was because PS fonts looked shit on screen. That's shit, with a capital shit.

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Post #280,071
by Another Scott
3/30/07 7:32:01 AM
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New I thought there was much more to it than that.
ATM was supposed to take care of the screen-display issues. My recollection was that MS didn't want to pay for ATM and/or Display Postscript and wanted to use their monopoly to crush Adobe. Apple had some issues with Adobe as well. There may have been font licensing cost issues too.

But I'm unable to check for links at the moment, and could well be misremembering...

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Post #280,072
by pwhysall
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3/30/07 7:55:52 AM
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New There was.
ATM was shit.

Hence the problem.

There might have been business/nefarious reasons, but ATM's utter crapitude was the principle driver, I wot.

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Post #280,228
by static
4/1/07 8:33:48 AM
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New Oh yeah - so it was.
My bad. Dunno how I could misremember that... :-?

That means I don't remember the Big Clever thing that happened to the Windows print subsystem. It might have been a real programmer-y thing like actually create some decent and functional abstraction in the API stack.

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     Alex St. John and the Monopoly - (inthane-chan) - (14) - March 29, 2007, 01:14:00 PM EDT
         Link? -NT - (admin) - (1) - March 29, 2007, 01:12:31 PM EDT
             Oops. Fixed. -NT - (inthane-chan) - March 29, 2007, 01:14:07 PM EDT
         Interesting interview. Thanks for the link. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 29, 2007, 01:25:39 PM EDT
         Very good article -NT - (crazy) - March 29, 2007, 06:49:08 PM EDT
         'Nother good quote - (drewk) - March 29, 2007, 08:20:47 PM EDT
         He likes telling his stories. - (static) - (6) - March 29, 2007, 09:01:49 PM EDT
             I wish they'd followed up on that - (drewk) - (5) - March 30, 2007, 03:44:33 AM EDT
                 Me too. - (static) - (4) - March 30, 2007, 06:22:26 AM EDT
                     Naw. - (pwhysall) - (3) - March 30, 2007, 07:14:57 AM EDT
                         I thought there was much more to it than that. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 30, 2007, 07:32:01 AM EDT
                             There was. - (pwhysall) - March 30, 2007, 07:55:52 AM EDT
                         Oh yeah - so it was. - (static) - April 1, 2007, 08:33:48 AM EDT
         re. that "printing system" tale - (Ashton) - March 30, 2007, 04:56:30 AM EDT
         Second part of the interview is up. - (inthane-chan) - April 13, 2007, 12:28:07 PM EDT

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