mp3 player question

Post #276,643 by boxley 12/25/06 12:27:09 PM Reply	mp3 player question bought a 1 GB player for the kid. He puts some songs on it then complains it wont copy any more. I look at the disk info, it sez 978 MB available 253.7 used format DOS fat 16bit WTF how do I partition it? If I touch it will it blow up? Nothing on the website [link\|http://www.sirenplayers.com/\|http://www.sirenplayers.com/] any ideas? thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #276,651 by a6l6e6x 12/25/06 3:10:28 PM Reply	16-bit FAT is good for up to 2 GB, if... 64 sector cluster are used. Even if 32 sector clusters are used, it should be able to cover 1 GB. [link\|http://support.microsoft.com/kb/67321\|The Gospel] according to Microsoft. You couldn't be hitting a number of files limit which according to [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table\|this] is 65,517? Incidentally, your link shows a 4 GB player. Going to the 1 GB player [link\|http://store.digitalriver.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPage&Locale=en_US&id=ProductDetailsPage&SiteID=siren&productID=41320200&Env=BASE\|page] shows 480 song limit. Could that 480 be some kind of a player limit? Alex When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
Post #276,653 by boxley 12/25/06 3:19:47 PM Reply	80 songs 254.7MB used 983 total MB found a resource page, posted the question on it. thanx. bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #276,664 by boxley 12/25/06 10:41:27 PM Reply	more info logged in as root df -k shows lots of space try to copy a file, no space left on device error mkdir foo chmod 777 foo exit to user cp file to foo no problem copy several songs to foo, no problem eject player album dtatabase is trashed, no data. All of the individual songs are there is it possible that the .DAT file can only handle so many records? deleted the directory, album data is back an ideas? thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #276,665 by Another Scott 12/25/06 11:06:46 PM Reply	It sounds very much like this problem. [link\|http://www.sirenplayers.com/faqs.php#myaudio\|Here]: Q: My audio player is unable to see all of the songs I have transferred. A: This occurs when too many folders are placed on the device with Windows Media Player. To resolve, please follow these steps: To resolve the issue: 1. Connect the player to the PC using the USB cable. 2. Open Windows Media Player. 3. Go to the Sync or Devices tab and delete all content from the player. 4. Go to the Tools menu and select Options. 5. Select the Devices tab, highlight the ILO or Siren player and click on Properties. 6. Uncheck the box "Create Folder Hierarchy on Device" Now, when music is transferred, it will be placed in the root directory of the flash memory disregarding the folder structure and allowing all tracks to be seen. I would assume that the player doesn't care how the songs get on it, as long as it gets all the info it needs. p.18 of the manual seems to cover using drag and drop to transfer the files to it. HTH a bit. BTW, I'm finding [link\|http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/\|CDex] (Thanks Andy!) is a pretty easy tool for making MP3s, and I'm not having the "access denied" errors any more. It's free. I just have to decide whether "preset standard" is good enough or whether I should go with "preset extreme".... Cheers, Scott.
Post #276,668 by tuberculosis 12/26/06 12:41:08 AM Reply	Who writes this junk? Q: My audio player is unable to see all of the songs I have transferred. A: This occurs when too many folders are placed on the device with Windows Media Player. To resolve, please follow these steps: I'm sitting here trying to understand what kind of bonehead programming will produce this limitation/error. I can only conclude that the people writing software at Microsoft are complete morons. Of course, most of what I see coming from that company tends to support this conclusion as well. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #276,670 by altmann 12/26/06 1:23:04 AM Reply	Why isn't it the player's fault? Why isn't it the player's fault for not supporting "too many folders"? My mp3 player seems to have no such limitations and I use it with WMP. -- Chris Altmann
Post #276,676 by tuberculosis 12/26/06 3:36:21 AM Reply	Why does it only occur with WMP? I figured that was the key factor. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #276,680 by boxley 12/26/06 7:34:03 AM Reply	note to all I dont use ANY folders drag songs onto ther device. It chokes at 80. If I create a folder I can then put more songs there. The player can see all of the songs but the album dataset gets unuseable. No folders 80 sonfs okay. 80 songs plus one folder no album dataset. thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #276,694 by pwhysall 12/26/06 1:05:24 PM Reply	Using just like a memory stick? If so, reformat and have another go. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #276,697 by Another Scott 12/26/06 1:16:13 PM Reply	I was going to suggest running chkdsk or similar, too.
Post #276,758 by static 12/26/06 11:31:11 PM Reply	That looks eerily familiar. It sounds like you're hitting the file limit in the root directory, but if you were doing that, you wouldn't be able to create the extra folder, either. It looks like the player's firmware has a playlist size limit. Perhaps a firmware upgrade is the go? Wade. "Don't give up!" [link\|http://staticsan.livejournal.com/\|blog] · [link\|http://yceran.org/\|website]
Post #277,172 by boxley 1/2/07 9:40:07 AM Reply	fixed deleted all the songs on the device. Created 20 folders. Placed albums within own folder. Up to 500MB and 180 songs no problems thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #277,184 by a6l6e6x 1/2/07 12:33:26 PM Reply	Good show! Looks like old DOS filenames in root limit. Alex When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis

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