Horse-

Post #274,974

12/6/06 12:59:47 PM

Horse-

crap.

You have routinely mocked - in many posts in this thread - even the idea of the existance of anything paranormal because of the lack of scientific evidence.

And now you never said that to be real it has to fit into a scientific framework?

Well, I suppose that's almost sort of true. You never EXPLICITLY said that.

Quantum Mind (and other woowoo/flimflam guffinations) are not scientific, and it's wrong to present them as such. Further, the woowooflimflam stuff has no credible evidence at all

Which is why I brought up ST. ST is ALSO not scientific (at least in it's present form), and is DESIGNED to be untestable. It's just pretty math. DE is just another word for comostatic repulsion, and the only 'evidence' for it is as a bookkeeping trick to prop up current scientismic cosmological ideas. But both of those ideas are fashionable. They fit current scientismic dogma. The idea that you consider Quantum Mind to be a 'woowoo/flimflam guffination' for the same reasons that I disbelieve/dismiss ST & DE amuses me mightily.

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Post #274,979

by pwhysall

12/6/06 1:16:04 PM

Whatever.

You're wagging my dog with its tail.

The very concept of "quantum mind" - those very words - implies that the proponents of this woowoo idea want it to be taken seriously as a scientific concept. Why not just call it, oh, I dunno, "gestalt microbrainism" or "feng shite", or some such? Don't wheel out the maths unless you're going to play according to the scientific rules.

You're very excited about dark energy and string theory. That's good.

I particularly like the way you use two very hard concepts with oceans of ugly, difficult mathematics describing them to justify the woowoo-ism of quantum mind.

They might well be total bollocks. The bollockosity quotient of dark energy and string theory is in no way related to the bollockosity quotient of quantum mind.

It might well be that all three concepts are complete toss.

At the moment, however, it's much clearer that one of these three is much, much tossier than the others.

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Post #274,981

by imric

12/6/06 1:24:16 PM

*chuckle* Justify Quantum Mind?

Hardly. When did I even attempt that?

And I really like that term: "bollockosity quotient".

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Post #275,044

by drewk

12/7/06 12:00:05 AM

ICLRPD (new thread)

Created as new thread #275043 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=275043|ICLRPD]

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Post #274,980

by pwhysall

12/6/06 1:16:08 PM

12/6/06 1:17:36 PM

Dupe, ignore

Weird dupe, at that. Same post 4 minutes apart. I only hit save the once.

Edited by pwhysall Dec. 6, 2006, 01:17:36 PM EST

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