Post #272,528
11/7/06 9:13:23 PM
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Beautiful FUD
[link|http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=B9B99902-7FFD-463A-8523-3B6AF63677DF|Computer Buisiness Review Online] Last week's announcement saw Microsoft announce that it will work with Novell on Windows/Linux interoperability, issue SUSE Linux Enterprise Server support vouchers to joint customers, recommend SUSE to those that want it, and promise not to sue SUSE Linux users or developers for patent infringement. Just setting the ground, here is the beauty. "Let me be clear about one thing, we don't license our intellectual property to Linux because of the way Linux licensing GPL framework works, that's not really a possibility," said Microsoft chief executive, Steve Ballmer.
"Novell is actually just a proxy for its customers, and it's only for its customers," he added. "This does not apply to any forms of Linux other than Novell's SUSE Linux. And if people want to have peace and interoperability, they'll look at Novell's SUSE Linux. If they make other choices, they have all of the compliance and intellectual property issues that are associated with that." Man, I have not seen FUD like that in years. There ain't too many folk that can FUD like Ballmer, and that is a prime slice o' FUD right there. Notice the multiple subtle and multiple implied threats. The demeaning of Novell as nothing more then a legal reseller of Microsoft rights. The indirect attack on the GPL. That is really a work of art. Jay
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Post #272,535
11/7/06 9:55:13 PM
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Love to see Microsoft start a patent war with IBM.
Linux is BIG with IBM.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Post #272,539
11/7/06 10:16:50 PM
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IBM would probably charge that Microsoft's . . .
. . executive washroom keys infringe an IBM patent - and document the infringement.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #272,542
11/7/06 10:42:10 PM
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Hey - If Ballmer didn't empty out every once in a while...
...the results would be BAD. He's full of enough of it NOW!
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning, As hopeless as it seems in the middle, Or as finished as it seems in the end. |
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Post #272,546
11/7/06 11:16:57 PM
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They would have to be out of their minds
Microsoft is a lot of things, but brain dead stupid is very rarely one of them.
Jay
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Post #272,550
11/7/06 11:37:10 PM
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And on the Linux front, they've already laid some . . .
. . groundwork, having carefully gathered solid evidence of Microsoft's deliberate efforts to funnel money to SCO Group to support their legal attack against Linux. Plausable deniability didn't work because the guy they hoodwinked into investing millions in SCO Group voluntarily spilled the beans, naming names, dates and times.
And speaking of spilling the beans, [link|http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061104213326242|Ransom Love] has declared for IBM, completely and utterly destroying any hope the SCO Group might have had that they had a ghost of a chance of making a case. Ransom Love was CEO of Caldera when the whole SCO asset purchase went down. A case can now easily be made that SCO Group filed frivolous lawsuits with complete knowledge they were based on lies.
Now that is sweet, sweet vengence. It was Darl McBride who displaced Ransom Love at Caldera and renamed it The SCO Group. He must have really enjoyed reaming Darl.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #272,653
11/8/06 8:05:52 PM
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Meanwhile, the plebs are being fed
[link|http://blogs.zdnet.com/carroll/index.php?p=1617|... the Velvet Fog?]
I see.. I see..
Tarantulas in a bottle; one of them has a nano-AK47 strapped to a hind leg - the other thinks the safety catch is on. Course I grok only a fraction of the Beast's tactics - is this one new levels of depravity, masquerading-as fecklessness?
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Post #272,548
11/7/06 11:26:19 PM
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It's discussed on Groklaw
[link|http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061107194320461|Groklaw] story on MS's SEC filing: Here's the [link|http://www.sec.gov/\nArchives/edgar/data/758004/000075800406000109/novl-8k_110706.htm|SEC filing, Novell's 8K]. Note that the humorously titled Patent Cooperation Agreement has exceptions, but they are not listed or explained. Anyone able to make sense of this gobbledygook?
Under the Patent Cooperation Agreement, Microsoft commits to a covenant not to assert its patents against Novell's end-user customers for their use of Novell products and services for which Novell receives revenue directly or indirectly from such customers, with certain exceptions, while Novell commits to a covenant not to assert its patents against Microsoft's end-user customers for their use of Microsoft products and services for which Microsoft receives revenue directly or indirectly from such customers, with certain exceptions.
So let me get this straight: Novell promises not to sue Microsoft's customers for using Microsoft software. Microsoft promises not to sue Novell SUSE paid customers for using Novell SUSE. They each pay each other millions. But it's not a patent cross license. No sirree. Why that would violate the GPL, don't you know. In fact, it isn't a license at all, because that would violate the GPL too. And then Novell couldn't distribute all that GPL software it didn't write but wishes to control. It's just a friendly handshake, and what are specifics between friends who wish to step over and past the GPL?
But if there are "certain exceptions", I believe that implies somebody knows some specifics. One way or another, these beans will eventually get spilled.
[...] Cheers, Scott
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