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New Bill Maher on 'The real menace to American kids'
[link|http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2006/10/13/foley_kids/index.html?source=newsletter| Salon]. The lighter, profane side of the manufactured outrages du jour
The real menace to American kids

We demonize Mark Foley but ignore the industries medicating children and making them fat, and even open our schools to people trying to kill them -- military recruiters.

By Bill Maher



Oct. 13, 2006 | If you think the worst thing Congress doesn't protect young people from is Mark Foley, wake up and smell the burning planet. The ice caps are cracking, the coral reefs are bleaching, and we're losing two species an hour. The birds have bird flu, the cows have mad cow, and our poisoned groundwater has turned spinach into a side dish of mass destruction. Our schools are shooting galleries, our beaches are cancer wards, and under George W. Bush -- for the first time in 45 years -- our country's infant mortality rate actually went up.

Read the labels on your food. It turns out the healthiest thing you can put in your body is Mark Foley's penis. He was probably the first fruit those pages ever came into contact with that wasn't drenched in pesticide.

But that's America for you -- a red herring culture, always scared of the wrong things. The fact is, there are a lot of creepy middle-aged men out there lusting for your kids. They work for MTV, the pharmaceutical industry, McDonald's, Marlboro and K Street. And recently, there's been a rash of strangers making their way onto school campuses and targeting our children for death. They're called military recruiters.

More young Americans were crippled in Iraq last month than in any month in the past three years. And the scandal is that Mark Foley wants to show them a good time before they go? When will our closeted gay congressmen learn? Our boys aren't for pleasure. They're for cannon fodder. They shouldn't be another notch on your bedpost. They should be a comma in Bush's war. If I hear a zipper, it had better be on a body bag.

Why aren't Democrats and the media hammering away every day about who we're supposed to be fighting for over there and what the plan is. Yes, Mark Foley was wrong to ask teenagers how long their penises were -- but at least someone on Capitol Hill was asking questions. We're the predators. Because we have an entire economy built on asking young people what they want, making the cheapest, sleaziest form of it they'll accept, and selling it to them until they choke on it and die.

You know who's grabbing your kids at too young an age? Merck, Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline, by convincing you they're depressed, hyperactive or suffering from attention-deficit disorder and so they must all get medicated. The drug dealers hooking your kids aren't in South America, they're in the halls of Congress handing out campaign donations to your congressmen. Mark Foley says he never slept with those kids, and I believe him, because American children are so hopped up on pills I doubt any of them could get it up.

From 1995 to 2002, the number of children prescribed antipsychotic drugs increased by over 400 percent. Either our children are going insane -- which we might look on as a problem -- or, more likely, we have, for profit, created a nation of little junkies. So stop already with the righteous moral indignation about predators -- this whole country is trying to get inside your kid's pants because that's where he keeps the money Daddy gave him to stay out of his hair.

I don't care if Mark Foley had been asking boys to describe their penises because I have some sad news for you: Your kid is so larded out on Cheetos and Yoo-hoo, he can't even see his penis. We live in a country where the ultimate consumer is an obese 16-year-old hooked up at one end to a Big Gulp and at the other to a PlayStation. So many of our kids today are fat drug addicts, it's almost as if Rush Limbaugh had had puppies.

In conclusion, we can pretend that the biggest threat to "our children" is some creep on the Internet, or we can admit it's Mom and Dad. When your son can't find France on a map, or touch his toes with his hands, or understand that the ads on TV are lying -- including the one in which the Marine turns into Lancelot -- then the person fucking him is you.

Bill Maher is the host of HBO's "Real Time With Bill Maher."
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New I cant decide
I'm on the fence about that article. There are parts of it I think are a load of crap. The rest of it scares the hell out of me. It certainly is thought provoking. And depressing.
(And where are my children? In the basement playing game cube as their little arteries harden as we speak.)
New Yeah, he lays it on pretty thick.
But that's the idea. He wants to provoke a reaction - as good political comics should.

There was an interesting [link|http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2006/10/13/PM200610138.html|commentary ] by Stefan Kertesz on Marketplace (on NPR radio stations) yesterday:

STEFAN KERTESZ: SCRIPT: If Big Pharma wasn't so busy using butterflies to sell sleeping pills, I would turn their genius to one truly serious problem that needs to come out of the shadows.

It's addiction.


I'm not sure that that's the solution, but it's something to think about.

I think that the federal laws permitting advertizing of prescription medications to the public should be re-exaimined. Since the federal government pays so much of the cost of medication and medical care, I don't see much of a problem in restricting advertizing that drives up the cost. (IOW, there were good reasons for the old rules on drug advertizing. How I long for the days when cereal ads were ubiquitous, rather than todays ubiquitous ED ads.) I also think that the FDA should regulate supplements and "herbal" remedies the way they used to. There are too many deceptive ads on TV now (not to mention the "We cure any disease!" spammers).

Cheers,
Scott.
("Got addictions, Bunkie? Take this pill <voice type="whisper">for the rest of your life</voice> and you'll be Better Than New!")
New since I had one kid considering Service to his country
the one behind him is going to get high on my dime and wake up at Parris Island with a faked birth certificate after his real 15th birthday next january.

The Iraq war is a defining moment in the current youth generation. From what I hear from the folks in the guard who are rotating in and out of there the outlook is different from the draftees of viet nam. The war is different. The folks serving are different, and they have a kickass and take names attitude that may or may not serve them when they attempt to return to a civillian life. They will either be the vanguard of a new society or the attack dogs of the old. It will be us that will decide that.

His rant on drugs and fruit are accurate. I do examine can labels and study what I can. Feed my kids healthy stuff, no fast food, havnt hit a burger barn in weeks. Little if any junk and I still have a 12 yo at 180'lbs 5 feet 8 inches tall.

thanx,
bill
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New Man, that's a couple great lines
My favorites:
Read the labels on your food. It turns out the healthiest thing you can put in your body is Mark Foley's penis. He was probably the first fruit those pages ever came into contact with that wasn't drenched in pesticide.

The fact is, there are a lot of creepy middle-aged men out there lusting for your kids. They work for MTV, the pharmaceutical industry, McDonald's, Marlboro and K Street. And recently, there's been a rash of strangers making their way onto school campuses and targeting our children for death. They're called military recruiters.

So many of our kids today are fat drug addicts, it's almost as if Rush Limbaugh had had puppies.
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New I thought the same thing :)
Smile,
Amy

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New I saw SuperSize Me for the first time the other day.
Lets just say I'm more wary of eating McDonald's now.

Wade.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
New Don't fool yourself other fast food is any better
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New Ar, it's all shite.
That's shite with a capital shite.

I'm not even sure how it qualifies as food.


Peter
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New Ah, yes, but . . .
. . they are clearly providing what the consumer wants. If they tried to sell healthy food they'd be creamed by whoever didn't.
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New That's starting to happen, albeit slowly
There are a lot more "fresh" and "healthy" fast food joints around here now, particularly the upscale Taco Bell ones like Qdoba and Rio Wraps.

Even McDonalds is heavily promoting their salads.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Im waiting for fries cooked in beef tallow, healthy good
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New Goose fat is where it's at. The proper way as it were...
New I had a lot of that as a kid, dont like it
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New Horses for courses. Enjoy your tastes.
It's why you can have several restaurants in one town.
I'll roast beef bones for stock or reductions, but I don't use the rendered fat for much. I've used goose/duck grease for deep frying and found it wonderful. Your mileage has obviously varied.
New maybe the fact that rancid goose fat and vinegar
was smeared on our chests everytime we had a cold might have something to do with it.
thanx,
bill
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New Why?
No really, why? I mean, I obviously think it's bogus, but what did someone think was the basis of that one?
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New Because it can't hurt?



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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:40:32 AM EDT
New actually vinegar does assist in drawing down a fever
the goose fat was to draw out the poison, I thought everyone knew that. Native Geordie Medicine.
thanx,
bill
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New Nah
More of a case of the cure being so horrible that the patient will make an extremely aggressive assessment of their well-being in order to avoid getting some more of it.


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New Hah! McDonald's Salads
If you have the one with the ranch dressing, it's actually lardier than a burger.

I'm sure I read that on the internet, so it must be true.

Edit: I did! I did! [link|http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/44895/are_mcdonalds_salad_dressings_healthy.html|clicky].

If I need food on the hoof, I'll head for Subway where I'll have the more-or-less fat-free chicken teryaki with all the salad and no sauces or dressings. Twas a revelation, that sarnie.


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Expand Edited by pwhysall Oct. 15, 2006, 04:59:42 PM EDT
New Of course you have to watch the dressing.
And ar, Subway is decent food.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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New Beat me to it.
Yes, McDonald's are heavily advertising their 'healthy' salads. That is, until you add the dressing. The fact that their salads have *more* fat than a burger is mentioned in the movie, BTW.

Wade.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
New That's exactly what I had for lunch today!
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
New I don't.
McDonald's is the one I basically grew up with (as distinct from 'grew up on'), although Sydney, Australia has also had KFC (nee Kentucky Fried Chicken), Red Rooster and Pizza Hut since forever. Subway, Hungry Jacks/Burger King, Oporto and Taco Bell are much more recent.

Wade.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
New Do they serve Vegemite in those places?
My understanding is that fast food ingredients are adjusted to match the palettes of the locals, but I would expect that Vegemite would still be off the menu at McDonalds. True?

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who's never had Vegemite.)
New I can tell you that most of those
provide roasted green chilis as a condiment in New Mexico - otherwise the locals wouldn't touch them.




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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:40:48 AM EDT
New It's available.
In the McDonald's breakfast menu, Vegemite is available for spreading across an english muffin or slice of toast. And in some of the more conventional hamburgers (not the classic, well-known ones), sliced beetroot is added to the filling.

I don't know about the other outlets. I've yet to find a non-chain sandwich shop that doesn't have Vegemite, but I've never asked at Subway.

Wade.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
     Bill Maher on 'The real menace to American kids' - (Ashton) - (27)
         I cant decide - (bionerd) - (1)
             Yeah, he lays it on pretty thick. - (Another Scott)
         since I had one kid considering Service to his country - (boxley)
         Man, that's a couple great lines - (drewk) - (23)
             I thought the same thing :) -NT - (imqwerky)
             I saw SuperSize Me for the first time the other day. - (static) - (21)
                 Don't fool yourself other fast food is any better -NT - (drewk) - (20)
                     Ar, it's all shite. - (pwhysall) - (15)
                         Ah, yes, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (14)
                             That's starting to happen, albeit slowly - (admin) - (13)
                                 Im waiting for fries cooked in beef tallow, healthy good -NT - (boxley) - (8)
                                     Goose fat is where it's at. The proper way as it were... -NT - (hnick) - (7)
                                         I had a lot of that as a kid, dont like it -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                                             Horses for courses. Enjoy your tastes. - (hnick) - (5)
                                                 maybe the fact that rancid goose fat and vinegar - (boxley) - (4)
                                                     Why? - (drewk) - (3)
                                                         Because it can't hurt? -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                                         actually vinegar does assist in drawing down a fever - (boxley) - (1)
                                                             Nah - (pwhysall)
                                 Hah! McDonald's Salads - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                     Of course you have to watch the dressing. - (admin)
                                     Beat me to it. - (static)
                                     That's exactly what I had for lunch today! -NT - (Meerkat)
                     I don't. - (static) - (3)
                         Do they serve Vegemite in those places? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                             I can tell you that most of those - (tuberculosis)
                             It's available. - (static)

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