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Post #267,297 by drewk 9/12/06 10:53:15 AM 9/12/06 10:54:46 AM Reply	No We are not safer from terrorism because we are aware of anything. Anyone who wants to blow some of us up can, whether we are aware of it or not. The only thing we are possibly safer from is having a plane taken over. Nothing else. But thanks to what this administration has done we are less safe from anything that can't be tied to terrorism. You know, things that actually happen. We are less safe from false imprisonment due to illegal searches. We are less safe from imprisonment without charge. We are less safe from being barred re-entry to the country we were born in. We are less safe from being denied free movement about the country. We are less safe from natural disasters, because we're focused on man-mad threats. We are less safe from poverty that could be prevented if we weren't pouring all our money down a bottomless hole called the War on Terror. We are less safe from stress-related disorders caused by constant threats made by our own "leaders". In short no, we are not safer from a damn thing that's likely to happen. And we are much less safe from things that happen every day. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com] Edited by drewk Sept. 12, 2006, 10:54:46 AM EDT No We are not safer from terrorism because we are aware of anything. Anyone who wants to blow some of us up can, whether we are aware of it or not. The only thing we are possibly safer from is having a plane taken over. Nothing else. But thanks to what this adminstration has done we are less safe from anything that can't be tied to terrorism. You know, things that actually happen. We are less safe from false imprisonment due to illegal searches. We are less safe from imprisonment without charge. We are less safe from being barred re-entry to the country we were born in. We are less safe from being denied free movement about the country. We are less safe from poverty that could be prevented if we weren't pouring all our money down a bottomless hole called the War on Terror. We are less safe from stress-related disorders caused by constant threats made by our own "leaders". In short no, we are not safer from a damn thing that's likely to happen. And we are much less safe from things that happen every day. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com] Collapse All History
Post #267,302 by Nightowl 9/12/06 11:01:59 AM 9/12/06 11:08:59 AM Reply	On an individual level only. One more time. I as a person am safer because I have a better awareness of the dangers around me in the world, whether they be manmade, natural or terrorism. Can I still be blown up, yes. Can I still be shot, yes. Can I still be in an accident, yes. But I have taken more precautions, and not because I'm in fear for my life all the time, I've gotten past that initial reaction. I have taken those precautions because I have learned to protect myself better. I.e. avoid disasters when I can, by having safety measures in place, drive carefully, watch around me when walking to and from my car. This isn't a statement about whether the world around me is safer, or whether I am safe, because as I explained in the original post, there is no actual safe. I am simply able to protect myself better than I used to because I am more aware. The attacks of 9/11 were no different than Hurricane Katrina in that sense only, that they taught us "Yes this CAN happen to us." And hopefully next time, on an individual level, people will be more able to help themselves in such a disaster. One more statement and I have to get offline today. In St. Louis, some people whined about there being no electricity for days. Some had no flashlights, no unperishable food, etc. They expected the government to come to their rescue. Granted, the government should help some, but what are the odds now that after the disaster has hit, MORE people have working flashlights, have stored up non-perishable food and drinking water, etc. etc. I know I have increased my ability to handle that type of disaster, so therefore I learned. That is my simple point. We learn more about how to protect ourselves with each experience we encounter, and therefore we are safer in that respect only. Not in regards to the world or country or city around us. Brenda "When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ************************** "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss ******************************* "Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06 ******************************* Edited by Nightowl Sept. 12, 2006, 11:08:59 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #267,305 by hnick 9/12/06 11:21:55 AM Reply	I think what you are talking about is confidence The more adversity you survive, the more confident you are about surviving the next. It's not the same as being safer, but it may feel like it. On the other paw, maybe this isn't what you're talking about. In which case _{never mind}
Post #267,306 by Nightowl 9/12/06 11:25:56 AM 9/12/06 11:27:18 AM Reply	Confidence, that works too. :) The more adversity you survive, the more confident you are about surviving the next. It's not the same as being safer, but it may feel like it. That word seems to work too. :) Just add onto that the fact that the knowledge of how to take care of myself and protect myself brings that confidence that I can cope or get through it, or watch out for dangers more readily. :) But yes, the word confidence works when stated as "I have more confidence because I have gained more knowledge to use in those situations." Brenda "When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ************************** "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss ******************************* "Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06 ******************************* Edited by Nightowl Sept. 12, 2006, 11:27:18 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #267,719 by pwhysall 9/15/06 10:22:51 PM Reply	Re: On an individual level only. I as a person am safer because I have a better awareness of the dangers around me in the world, whether they be manmade, natural or terrorism. Can I still be blown up, yes. Can I still be shot, yes. Can I still be in an accident, yes. Your awareness does not raise your safety level. You are less safe because your government has reduced your safety level in the name of the Wah on Terrah. Drewk explains above. The risks that have increased are those which you cannot influence. Have a nice day. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #267,354 by Ashton 9/12/06 3:47:33 PM Reply	An accurate beginning-list, at least around the nebulous idea of 'safety'. But around the idea of damage done by this Confederacy of Dunces Believe that title has been taken.. (Damage: to whom / by whom / to what effect?) - as surely relates to a sense of er, psychic? 'safety' within one's daily environment - Believe that mere prose can only hint at the toxicity of these slime, compounded unquantifiably by the fact that: all Institutions failed to act upon basic tenets of the Country's founding principles! Worst of all, within this dirty snowball of expectations: the vast plurality of Peepul Didn't Even Notice! - the magnitude of the lies, spin, and the underlying but Clear disdain of this cabal: for Them, in every sense of the relationship of a government to its 'governed'. This is the stuff of Greek tragedy, and all we have around are the pipsqueaks of mundane carping. (Yeah too.. we all suffer for the loss of Irony as a viable tool..) Now we are all forced to consider, in one form or another, the question -- does there remain much here today, actually Worth 'dying for'? .. when you have to pause and think a while, before replying: that's what I Mean. Screw 'safety'; what we lack is Integrity - slaves usually are! 'kept safe' by Owners: they're a valuable commodity (and a source of protein, after their production declines.) Soylent Wolfowitz?

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