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Post #266,604
by pwhysall
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9/2/06 10:06:32 PM
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New Counterpoint
My dad smoked like a chimney, did little exercise and ate a diet that wasn't exactly brilliant.

He died at the age of 57, because at the end of the day, a poor diet, lack of exercise and a tobacco habit is bad for you.

People who wheel out the anecdotal "My old gran lived on chips, smoked 60 a day and lived until a hundred" are flying in the face of the fact that most people who eat crap diets and smoke a lot die younger than average.

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Post #266,607
by imric
9/2/06 10:34:06 PM
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New I think, mostly lack of exercise.
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Post #266,617
by pwhysall
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9/3/06 3:31:33 AM
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New No, it was the smoking.
But hey, if you want to believe that smoking doesn't massively increase your risk of an early death, then that's up to you.

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Post #266,620
by imric
9/3/06 9:13:19 AM
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New Not at all
My lack of exercise is bad, too.

If you notice most those anecdotal stories about the smoking, drinking, oldsters that don't go for the latest dietary fads - you'll see they are active and had a lifetime of hard work and execise...

You won't hear me say smoking isn't inherently bad for you - I think that exercise is the most important leg on THAT tripod, though.
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Post #266,609
by boxley
9/2/06 10:48:48 PM
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New gran never smoked, agree thats bad for you
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     "Healthy Diet" takes another hit. - (Andrew Grygus) - (15) - Sept. 2, 2006, 11:29:46 AM EDT
         Hmmm.., a sample size of one. - (bionerd) - (13) - Sept. 2, 2006, 01:09:17 PM EDT
             Yes, but, a sample size of one . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Sept. 2, 2006, 01:57:07 PM EDT
                 Yo yo yo - (bionerd) - Sept. 2, 2006, 02:07:38 PM EDT
                 No, it isn't. - (pwhysall) - Sept. 2, 2006, 10:07:48 PM EDT
             What's the population size of 112 year olds? - (SpiceWare) - (9) - Sept. 2, 2006, 06:40:02 PM EDT
                 There's one other 112-year claiment in California . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 2, 2006, 07:14:27 PM EDT
                 Well, in 2005 there were 55,000 - (bionerd) - (7) - Sept. 2, 2006, 07:15:56 PM EDT
                     do you have any evidence of vegatarians living that long? - (boxley) - (6) - Sept. 2, 2006, 09:53:26 PM EDT
                         Counterpoint - (pwhysall) - (4) - Sept. 2, 2006, 10:06:32 PM EDT
                             I think, mostly lack of exercise. -NT - (imric) - (2) - Sept. 2, 2006, 10:34:06 PM EDT
                                 No, it was the smoking. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 3, 2006, 03:31:33 AM EDT
                                     Not at all - (imric) - Sept. 3, 2006, 09:13:19 AM EDT
                             gran never smoked, agree thats bad for you -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 2, 2006, 10:48:48 PM EDT
                         Not off hand - (bionerd) - Sept. 3, 2006, 10:50:37 AM EDT
         I'll drink to that! - (imqwerky) - Sept. 2, 2006, 08:40:16 PM EDT

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