Post #265,072
8/16/06 12:50:02 PM
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And here's another:
Why haven't these dangerous criminals, whose arrest was the result of that aforementioned rigorous investigation, police work, yadda, yadda, yadda, been indicted yet? Why does the Brit gubmint need to hold them for another 28 days without charging htem if they are so investigated?
(OK, so that's 2 questions...)
Like I said earlier, Until there are indictments (or whatever the Brit equivalent is), one cannot rule out the possibility (read: probability) that all this is simply Rovian fear mongering in response to Lieberman's defeat.
jb4
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Post #265,088
8/16/06 2:36:39 PM
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You said it
and if anyone has a link to any mainstream media that
uses the words 'alleged plot'
I'd like to see it
even liberal columnists are calling it a plot
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Post #265,102
8/16/06 6:10:53 PM
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Try this one
Found in the [link|http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRITAIN_TERROR_PLOT?SITE=WIMIL&SECTION=INTERNATIONAL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT| Milwaukee Journal Sentinel]: Plane-plot suspects to be kept in jail
By MATT MOORE
Associated Press Writer
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LONDON (AP) -- A district judge ruled Wednesday that British investigators have until next week to investigate the suspects arrested in an alleged plot to blow up as many as 10 trans-Atlantic jetliners, saying they could be kept in custody without charge.
It was the first major test of a new terrorism law that lets suspects be held for as long as 28 days without charge so investigators can solidify their cases.
So at least this news source gets it right. But notice that Britland is invoking a law (that is unconstitutional here in the US, much to our Atty Gen's chagrin) to Gitmo them without having to charge them. Things that make you saY, 'Hmmmm...." jb4
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Post #265,107
8/16/06 7:21:13 PM
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It's hardly Gitmoing them
If they can't get enough to convince a judge that a charge is warranted in 28 days, they have to let them go.
How long have they had some of the people in Gitmo again?
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Post #265,114
8/16/06 11:14:53 PM
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28 days; moon worshippers?
Damn those druids hides!
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Post #265,135
8/17/06 10:02:25 AM
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Doesn't sound inherently unresonable
I don't know much about the British law but it doesn't sound inherently unresonable. If the police actually have to convince a judge they have a reason for the delay and there can only be one delay, I have no problem with this.
In some ways it would be better then the US system where the prosecuters charge people with everything they can think of and then drop the ones they don't think they can make stick right before the trial.
Jay
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Post #265,139
8/17/06 10:10:18 AM
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No, they can keep extending it
But every 28 days they have to explain to a judge why they have to keep delaying.
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Post #265,188
8/17/06 2:18:07 PM
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That would be ugly and open to abuse then
Particularly if they match the American system, which often lets the police decide which judge they want to review the matter.
Jay
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Post #265,190
8/17/06 2:20:35 PM
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But it's *some* oversight
Everything's open to abuse. All you can do is make it more work. Like putting an alarm on your car: The right (wrong) people won't be slowed down, but it raises the bar.
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Post #265,144
8/17/06 10:16:22 AM
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in 1789 the people of France cut off a lot of heads
because they were damn sick of letters de cache, basically an accusation with no review. I hope we have advanced past the 18th century.
thanx,
bill
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Post #265,145
8/17/06 10:20:45 AM
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Judging by the behaviours of our current crop of leaders
we've regressed past the 18th century.
If this keeps up we might have to take a long look at the various corrective actions that were taken from the Enlightenment.
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Post #265,263
8/18/06 10:01:35 AM
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anyone remember the way....
the establishment laughed at those who said fascism was
coming back in the Nixon era
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Post #265,330
8/18/06 5:37:44 PM
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Forlorn and vain hope, indeed.
jb4
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