Two spaces has nothing to do with Unix

Post #264,773 by drewk 8/14/06 8:39:45 AM Reply	Two spaces has nothing to do with Unix I was taught that way on a manual typewriter. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #264,780 by a6l6e6x 8/14/06 9:10:13 AM Reply	Bingo! I was tought that in the 8th grade typing. Not that I can type even today. Alex When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
Post #264,791 by Steve Lowe 8/14/06 10:37:21 AM Reply	Ditto - typing class in high school. Though a quick google search found [link\|http://www.greece.k12.ny.us/taylor/topics/doublespace.htm\|this article]. -- Steve [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu]
Post #264,796 by drewk 8/14/06 11:00:13 AM Reply	Stupid I understand the difference between monospaced and proportional typefaces. I also know that the whole point of the two spaces was to make the sentence space larger than the word space. From TFA: If you use only one word space at the end of a typewritten sentence, it\ufffds not wide enough to make an appreciable gap between one sentence and the one that follows it. ... More concisely put, double word spaces between typewritten sentences help to make the type look more naturally spaced and to read more easily. Typesetting systems, on the other hand, use proportionally spaced typefaces, where the width of each character can be customized to accommodate the natural shapes of the letters (and not vice versa). When this happens, type sets more tightly, which makes word spaces stand out more. A result is that one word space after a sentence is sufficient to provide that visual cue. Two spaces simply look too wide. I'll just continue to disagree on this one. A period is supposed to represent a fuller break than just a comma. I like that break to be visually represented. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #264,818 by pwhysall 8/14/06 6:10:54 PM Reply	Disagree if you like. You will find no professionally typeset material with two spaces after a full stop. You're entitled to your opinion, but it's wrong. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #264,822 by jake123 8/14/06 6:39:33 PM 8/14/06 6:39:57 PM Reply	I'd like to recommend [link\|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0881792063/sr=8-1/qid=1155595044/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-5610957-5315005?ie=UTF8\|The Elements of Typographic Style], by Robert Bringhurst. It contains an extensive discussion on this... and he's fully in agreement with Peter, even with monospaced fonts. It's a great book; I'd recommend it in general, not just for checking out the question of full stop double space. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by jake123 Aug. 14, 2006, 06:39:57 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #264,842 by Ashton 8/14/06 8:48:12 PM Reply	"Wrong" ... heh How Marloweschatological of you! especially in such times as multitudes of lazy composers imagine selves to be e e cummings each imagining that other punctuation is as dispensable as the full stop == two spaces as intended by [T]he [B]ard and ever since commas colons semicolons join the simple period now as compressible for some notion of efficiency this renders the paragraph as the new [.tar] homogenized sentence of corporate printing efficiency__Words.__fail.__but I digress[.__] perhaps when nothing is sacred then nothing shall remain legible too[.__] i robot
Post #264,861 by Another Scott 8/14/06 10:45:35 PM Reply	Dunno. Saying ".__" is always wrong strikes me as a bit too dogmatic. Like others, I was taught in typing class that two spaces go after a period that ends a sentence. A lot of text that's published is fully justified or uses [link\|http://www2.ncsu.edu:8010/ncsu/grammar/Typo3.html\|compensatory spacing] - the spacing on the line is adjusted to minimize the jagged right edge. An example is provided in the sample pages in the book Jake pointed out on Amazon. Saying there's a hard-and-fast rule that one space goes after a period seems a bit simplistic to me. As the link says, with compensatory spacing, it's most common to use one space. But it also says that the proper choice can depend on the font used. So, I dunno. Cheers, Scott.
Post #264,875 by pwhysall 8/15/06 2:48:58 AM Reply	If it's not dogmatic... ...why do no professional typesetters or designers use two spaces after a full stop? Irrespective of proportional or compensatory spacing, they don't do it. At all. EvAr. Aside: the obnoxious habit that some people have of forcing the issue in HTML using NBSP entities just makes cut'n'paste more difficult, with the side benefit of producing copy that appears to have been typeset by a monkey on crack. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]

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