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New Interesting.
You give a link that 1) identifies THE SPECIFIC PLANE...and then offer another link that shows the resupply IS BY GROUND!!! And my point is...IF RESUPPLY IS BY AIR IT WOULD BE EASY TO DETERMINE...which is obviously the case since they already know it is an Iranian 747. Not exactly hard to pick that out of a crowd...and not exactly something that radar wouldn't see.

And no reason to bomb the airport. You know its an iranian 747...shoot it down.

Or, send in a tactical squad when you see the plane land...blow it up with PROOF that its there and carrying arms.

Both better solutions that would WIN support for Israel, not lose it.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
New Your amazing, everthing is so easy
In real life these things are not so easy. Do you know where Beirut airport is in relation to the border? How many people are guarding the airport? Yeah it sounds easy send in a tactical team, but it is not. How do you ensure that they get out? Remeber his was on the first day of the fighting.

I can just imagine what people like you would have said if Israel had shot down an Iranian airliner besides the fact that it might have set off a regional war.

But, who cares about all that, the armchair general here has declared that it is easy so he must be right. After all, it worked in Rambo, or some other war movie. Unfortunately real war is not like a movie and is not so simple.
Expand Edited by bluke Aug. 3, 2006, 02:06:06 PM EDT
Expand Edited by bluke Aug. 3, 2006, 02:13:14 PM EDT
New Yes. 50 miles from the border over open water
to an airport with the main runway that sits in the ocean. Very well within range of the helicopter gunships that we sold you.

Did I say it would have been EASIER than bombing. No. However, as far as targets go, Beirut Airport is pretty painless. And again, it was attacked, over and over again, based on an assertion with no proof. It would have been better to send gunships and get proof. Israeli firepower could easily handle ground defense of the airport (if it is what they claim it to be).

As for armchair generaling...you are doing a fine job of this also...passing on the party line in justification of targeting civilians.

Does this criticism of Israeli tactics in any way endorse Hezbollah? No. They are equally culpable of targetting civilians. But we have always been told that Israel was above this. It does not currently seem to be the case...and there seems to be no interest in demonstrating anything different.

Well, shooting down a cargo plane that is carrying arms into a conflict zone isn't likely to be thought of poorly. If its known enough to be published...its known enough to be acted upon.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
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