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Post #263,593
by drewk
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8/3/06 10:48:19 AM
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New This will be my last reply on this
Bill said:
The reason you would fight that war is because it would PROVE that you were interested in minimizing civilian casualties in Lebanon.
Your response was:
No one including the US throws away troops for no reason.
By your own words, minimizing civilian (Lebanese) casualties is "no reason". As I said before: Israel has so far demonstrated that they don't care about civilians, they care about Israelis. There are things civilized people don't do, even in self defense.
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Post #263,606
by bluke
8/3/06 11:23:22 AM
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New You are being pedantic
No one throws troops into a fight where they know they will be ambushed and killed if they have a choice.
Post #263,608
by bluke
8/3/06 11:25:29 AM
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New Modern war is always a balance
between civilian casualties and the fighting, that is a fact of life. No country is obligated to throw troops into a trap to save civilians who are in fact helping the enemy.
Post #263,638
by Simon_Jester
8/3/06 1:55:41 PM
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New So, why do a ground war at all?
No country is obligated to throw troops into a trap to save civilians who are in fact helping the enemy.


why not simply bomb (nuke?) the country flat?
Post #263,644
by bluke
8/3/06 2:24:20 PM
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New Re: So, why do a ground war at all?
Because no war has ever been won from the air. The air attacks weakened Hezbollah and made the conditions for a ground war against Hezbollah more favorable.
Post #263,645
by boxley
8/3/06 2:29:11 PM
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New took 48 hrs to get to beirut in 82, whats wrong here?
would have been better to blow by everything then pickup the trash on the way out. Would have been almost over by now. The tactics are looking pretty wishy washy from this viewpoint.
thanx,
bill
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
     The Great Double Standard - (bluke) - (62) - Aug. 2, 2006, 06:23:24 AM EDT
         Luckily I already do - (JayMehaffey) - Aug. 2, 2006, 09:53:31 AM EDT
         Humorous... - (Simon_Jester) - (25) - Aug. 2, 2006, 09:59:19 AM EDT
             Because they're special. -NT - (jake123) - (2) - Aug. 2, 2006, 10:27:33 AM EDT
                 Yep - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2006, 06:43:03 AM EDT
                     Love. It. - (Ashton) - Aug. 3, 2006, 07:11:19 PM EDT
             When rockets are raining down ... - (bluke) - (21) - Aug. 3, 2006, 12:12:13 AM EDT
                 Excuse me? - (bepatient) - (19) - Aug. 3, 2006, 01:15:11 AM EDT
                     Not to save the Jews - (bluke) - (18) - Aug. 3, 2006, 06:27:04 AM EDT
                         Ahh...so we didn't - (bepatient) - (17) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:18:30 AM EDT
                             Yes - (bluke) - (16) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:27:28 AM EDT
                                 Certainly... - (bepatient) - (15) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:34:42 AM EDT
                                     Give me a break - (bluke) - (14) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:59:16 AM EDT
                                         Really. Is there? - (bepatient) - (13) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:21:33 AM EDT
                                             America and the Holocaust: Draw your own conclusions - (bluke) - (4) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:34:33 AM EDT
                                                 Why, the authors already did. - (bepatient) - (3) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:55:05 AM EDT
                                                     None and you know it -NT - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:57:12 AM EDT
                                                         somehow I doubt that -NT - (bepatient) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:12:49 AM EDT
                                                     Just lookin fer loopholes, are we? - (Ashton) - Aug. 3, 2006, 07:50:54 PM EDT
                                             It's no secret that America in the 1940's ... - (bluke) - (7) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:04:13 AM EDT
                                                 So you go from - (bepatient) - (6) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:14:17 AM EDT
                                                     Do you deny that America was a racist anti-semitic ... - (bluke) - (5) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:20:10 AM EDT
                                                         whatchu mean then? -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:24:23 AM EDT
                                                             That given the overall atmosphere in the US - (bluke) - (3) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:26:52 AM EDT
                                                                 I assume you have lived in America at some point - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:31:58 AM EDT
                                                                     Born and bred in NYC - (bluke) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:36:08 AM EDT
                                                                 That was my experience then, too - - (Ashton) - Aug. 3, 2006, 08:03:12 PM EDT
                 A proclamation - (rcareaga) - Aug. 3, 2006, 07:59:16 PM EDT
         Has there ever been a war ... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 2, 2006, 10:45:32 AM EDT
         You haven't answered yet - (drewk) - (33) - Aug. 2, 2006, 02:08:27 PM EDT
             Re: You haven't answered yet - (bluke) - (32) - Aug. 3, 2006, 12:17:55 AM EDT
                 Will you stop the WW comparisons? - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2006, 01:17:11 AM EDT
                     Last I checked ... - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2006, 06:27:55 AM EDT
                         Whatever. -NT - (bepatient) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:19:45 AM EDT
                 Re: You haven't answered yet - (systems) - (28) - Aug. 3, 2006, 05:43:05 AM EDT
                     Re: You haven't answered yet - (bluke) - (27) - Aug. 3, 2006, 06:35:45 AM EDT
                         personally I think you are both screwed - (boxley) - Aug. 3, 2006, 07:32:14 AM EDT
                         Rebuttal with your own quote - (bepatient) - (25) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:29:48 AM EDT
                             Wrong - (bluke) - (24) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:50:54 AM EDT
                                 katushas from Mexico? - (boxley) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:52:12 AM EDT
                                 Don't try to claim - (bepatient) - (7) - Aug. 3, 2006, 09:54:34 AM EDT
                                     No one including the US ... - (bluke) - (6) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:02:38 AM EDT
                                         This will be my last reply on this - (drewk) - (5) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:48:19 AM EDT
                                             You are being pedantic - (bluke) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:23:22 AM EDT
                                             Modern war is always a balance - (bluke) - (3) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:25:29 AM EDT
                                                 So, why do a ground war at all? - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2006, 01:55:41 PM EDT
                                                     Re: So, why do a ground war at all? - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2006, 02:24:20 PM EDT
                                                         took 48 hrs to get to beirut in 82, whats wrong here? - (boxley) - Aug. 3, 2006, 02:29:11 PM EDT
                                 If the US response... - (Simon_Jester) - (14) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:01:35 AM EDT
                                     That is exactly what Israel is doing now - (bluke) - (13) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:04:44 AM EDT
                                         Air support != air attack - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:10:41 AM EDT
                                             What kind of air support can you give ... - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:13:43 AM EDT
                                                 Probably not.... - (Simon_Jester) - Aug. 3, 2006, 01:51:59 PM EDT
                                         A huge what-if - (bepatient) - (9) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:28:45 AM EDT
                                             How do you think the katyushas got to Lebanon? - (bluke) - (8) - Aug. 3, 2006, 10:31:38 AM EDT
                                                 Last time anyone checked...and your own admission - (bepatient) - (7) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:10:31 AM EDT
                                                     Don't be ridiculous - (bluke) - (6) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:22:00 AM EDT
                                                         Prove it. - (bepatient) - (5) - Aug. 3, 2006, 11:45:08 AM EDT
                                                             Why did Israel bomb the Beirut airport - (bluke) - (4) - Aug. 3, 2006, 01:07:25 PM EDT
                                                                 Interesting. - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2006, 01:19:56 PM EDT
                                                                     Your amazing, everthing is so easy - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2006, 02:13:14 PM EDT
                                                                         Yes. 50 miles from the border over open water - (bepatient) - Aug. 3, 2006, 04:48:54 PM EDT
                                                                 On the other hand... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 4, 2006, 07:50:06 AM EDT

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